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Old 15th July 2018, 16:25   #1
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I bought this:-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-3-E36...8AAOSwZoZacvdP


However I just went to use it, and the part of the tool thats meant to push the joint is a nice close fit over the rubber gaitor, but then its 3mm short of butting up against the outer casing of the joint.

What is going on, Ive never seen a tool which relies on pushing the center of a rose joint before. This will damage it surely?

Just waiting for tablet to charge for a pic.

Really annoying. It is the right kit for the right balljoint!


Pic added... sigh...


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Old 15th July 2018, 20:16   #2
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I bought this:-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-3-E36...8AAOSwZoZacvdP


However I just went to use it, and the part of the tool thats meant to push the joint is a nice close fit over the rubber gaitor, but then its 3mm short of butting up against the outer casing of the joint.

What is going on, Ive never seen a tool which relies on pushing the center of a rose joint before. This will damage it surely?

Just waiting for tablet to charge for a pic.




Really annoying. It is the right kit for the right balljoint!

No it's not the right kit, it's a Vectra B/Saab tool

It's what I used, however I did machine up a proper cup

I would suggest once you remove the old bush, knock out the centre and use the outer part as a spacer
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Old 15th July 2018, 20:23   #3
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Thought it was an E46 rear rose tool that would do the trick?

How about this?? (the cup certainly looks much deeper) The pics certainly suggest it is the same bush!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW3-E36-...l/283010606670

Ps Brian, when you sucessfully got your subframe suspension arm bolts out, did you try and replace the nuts, or did you leave alone?

PPS, does anyone bother to replace the lower normal bush that the lower arm connects to?
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No need to replace the nuts, they were perfectly alright Ross

And you don't need to buy another tool, once you've removed the old bush, use that to pull in the new one

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How on earth do you split a rose joint?!
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How on earth do you split a rose joint?!
Pull the boot off the end, and you will see how the inner part is held in place by a crimped steel ring, in fact it's the one the boot is secured with

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Cheers Brian.

You dont know if the lower ones (standard rubber for lower arms) are the same diameter as the top ones do you?

(Cant get to car to measure at the mo)

Still cannot believe I managed the subframe nuts from hell without that going wrong. Took a lot of patience though, that is for sure. No clue if there is damage to the retainers, its so flaming hard to see in there!

Not going to risk replacing those nuts with new ones, its too much of a faff.
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