Water based gloss?

roverbarmy · 21st April 2017, 20:47

I've spent ages, preparing a surface to paint (my lawn mower) today and bought some gloss. I hadn't realised that it was water based. It's horrible! It doesn't flow, doesn't cover and you can see all the brushmarks and "pulls" in the paint. What a waste of time and money. I'll be wet and drying again and buying some good, old fahioned, environment damaging, oil based gloss to do the job properly!

Mike

Les4048 · 21st April 2017, 20:53

I used it on doors in the house and never again, absolutely rubbish paint with no shine and as you say shows every brush mark

macafee2 · 21st April 2017, 21:15

I agree, its rubbish.

macafee2

murphyv310 · 21st April 2017, 21:36

When I had the firefrost 75 I got an aerosol can made up and was told it was water based, I also was given lacquer that was spirit based????.... a bit odd, the basecoat was awful, I just couldn't get it right. Terrible paint.

marinabrian · 21st April 2017, 23:35

You cannot beat paint high in VOC

Water based paint, nope, I like a paint that takes four hours to be touch dry, and sixteen hours between coats, and for a gloss like glass, rubbed down between each coat with progressively finer grades of wet and dry paper.

I once had a comment about my "UPVC" window sills, nope they're painted timber.

Mind you I don't think twice about spending four to five weeks painting a single room

Brian

zedhed · 22nd April 2017, 06:52

unfortunately we are gonna have to get used to it as everything will be waterbased soon

even car paint is now.normally with this gloss you need at least 2-3 coats of underlay and even that's water based as well.

genpk · 22nd April 2017, 07:34

Do it in 2 pack and you never need to do it again
You might need to prime the area you have already painted,then either get 1 k base coat in the colour you want then a 2 k clear finish if you want high gloss or just get the base coat colour in a 2k no clear required

murphyv310 · 22nd April 2017, 08:54

We've a lot of fences and I use cuprinol each year. TBH it's useless especially up here with so much rain. Looks as if I'll need to get someone in to fit new posts and I'll be fitting slats, more money that's needed elsewhere.

T-Cut · 22nd April 2017, 09:23

I thought automobile paints and laquers are water based these days?

TC

Pete · 22nd April 2017, 09:28

It's a bit of a myth really. There have been some restrictions put in place but if you take your car to a bodyshop the chances are the paint they are using will contain isocyanates, including water based ones.

21st April 2017, 20:47	#1
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,048 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Water based gloss? I've spent ages, preparing a surface to paint (my lawn mower) today and bought some gloss. I hadn't realised that it was water based. It's horrible! It doesn't flow, doesn't cover and you can see all the brushmarks and "pulls" in the paint. What a waste of time and money. I'll be wet and drying again and buying some good, old fahioned, environment damaging, oil based gloss to do the job properly! Mike __________________ Oil in my veins!

21st April 2017, 21:36	#4
murphyv310 This is my second home Hyundai i10 998cc Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 6,602 Thanks: 2,088 Thanked 2,298 Times in 1,349 Posts	When I had the firefrost 75 I got an aerosol can made up and was told it was water based, I also was given lacquer that was spirit based????.... a bit odd, the basecoat was awful, I just couldn't get it right. Terrible paint. __________________ Cheers from Trevor MM0KJJ

22nd April 2017, 06:52	#6
zedhed Posted a thing or two zt saloon turbo Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Tipton Posts: 1,461 Thanks: 1 Thanked 167 Times in 132 Posts	unfortunately we are gonna have to get used to it as everything will be waterbased sooneven car paint is now.normally with this gloss you need at least 2-3 coats of underlay and even that's water based as well.

22nd April 2017, 08:54	#8
murphyv310 This is my second home Hyundai i10 998cc Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 6,602 Thanks: 2,088 Thanked 2,298 Times in 1,349 Posts	We've a lot of fences and I use cuprinol each year. TBH it's useless especially up here with so much rain. Looks as if I'll need to get someone in to fit new posts and I'll be fitting slats, more money that's needed elsewhere. __________________ Cheers from Trevor MM0KJJ

22nd April 2017, 09:28	#10
Pete Owners Club Director Rover 75 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sherfield-on-Loddon Posts: 4,872 Thanks: 137 Thanked 996 Times in 444 Posts	It's a bit of a myth really. There have been some restrictions put in place but if you take your car to a bodyshop the chances are the paint they are using will contain isocyanates, including water based ones. __________________ Follow The Club On Twitter

21st April 2017, 20:53	#2
Les4048 This is my second home Rover 75 Tourer/ MG ZT-T 400 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Lhanbryde Posts: 3,277 Thanks: 2,627 Thanked 1,523 Times in 869 Posts	I used it on doors in the house and never again, absolutely rubbish paint with no shine and as you say shows every brush mark

21st April 2017, 21:15	#3
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,904 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	I agree, its rubbish. macafee2

21st April 2017, 23:35	#5
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	You cannot beat paint high in VOC Water based paint, nope, I like a paint that takes four hours to be touch dry, and sixteen hours between coats, and for a gloss like glass, rubbed down between each coat with progressively finer grades of wet and dry paper. I once had a comment about my "UPVC" window sills, nope they're painted timber. Mind you I don't think twice about spending four to five weeks painting a single room Brian

22nd April 2017, 07:34	#7
genpk Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon MGZT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Perth, AUSTRALIA Posts: 1,662 Thanks: 3 Thanked 461 Times in 299 Posts	Do it in 2 pack and you never need to do it again You might need to prime the area you have already painted,then either get 1 k base coat in the colour you want then a 2 k clear finish if you want high gloss or just get the base coat colour in a 2k no clear required

22nd April 2017, 09:23	#9
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,751 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	I thought automobile paints and laquers are water based these days? TC

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