Everytime I hear the words.

Lordy · 2nd December 2015, 16:27

Every time I hear the words Jeremy Corbyn the first thing that comes into my head is Julie Andrews - The Hills Are Alive with The Sound of Music.

That's a sort of world he wants to create, but there those who don't want world peace and take lives of others, Isis are such beings there fiercely loyal to there cause and willing to die for there ideology
I admire Corbyn being different and standing up fro him self, he's got balls, but when it comes to the isis threat, he doesn't seem want to stop them, if he went over to a isis camp with piece of paper trying to negotiate, I'm pretty sure they would behead and use him as a trophy,
There is no shame in fighting back, look at the Paris attacks, there killing civilians and they wanted to and they did.
Corbyn fears fighting will play into isis hands, but doing nothing will also play into there hands as well.
they'll use this time to recruit others to serve and join the isis cause, and plan other major attacks.
We cherish life and we must protect it. there's no sin in fighting back and helping other nations in need.
personally in my blunt opinion military force must be taken, not just airstrikes but boots on the ground as well.

I'm sorry that people won't agree but were all individual's and we choose for ourselves.

At the same time still respect the wills of others and there ideas.

FLYER · 2nd December 2015, 16:47

Is this the new Lord Rover.

What happened to the Davy we all know and love .

You

have went all sensible .

Lordy · 2nd December 2015, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYER

Is this the new Lord Rover.

What happened to the Davy we all know and love .

You

have went all sensible .

I'm still the same don't you worry George i'll never change.

Just voicing my opinion.

klarzy · 2nd December 2015, 17:08

it is not a bad opinion at that....

Rev Jules · 2nd December 2015, 17:27

It's all well and good bombing Syria, nobody seems to be addressing the so called refugees, how many ISIS terrorists have come into Europe under this guise who will reek havoc on our streets, make no bones about it they are already here living among us.
And to give Turkey money to stop refugees and give their residents cart blanch visas to come into Europe, sorry if I am sceptical that money will go towards buying weapons, where on earth do our so called leaders come from planet zog.

Rev Jules.

klarzy · 2nd December 2015, 17:34

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Originally Posted by stevenicks

Nuke the lot of them effing ragheads,thats what I say Dave.

too generic.... would you have nuked Ireland during the days of IRA terrorism?
The peace there is a definite win win for common sense...

You either need to surgically remove the terrorists, or stop any more being recruited..

electronic media is the key to the ISIS popularity and radicalisation campaign... as I said before you do not see old suicide bombers, they are all young and impressionable people....

Most folk have no problem with whatever religion you want to believe in, but these guys are being brainwashed that Christianity is out to destroy the Islamic faith and the truth is most of us don't give a damn, are of no set faith at all and want nothing to do with harming anyone....

It is the age old story of religion being used as a tool for the powerful few to lead the masses to achieve their goals....

so sad in a so called modern and enlightened age...

Lordy · 2nd December 2015, 17:48

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Originally Posted by Rev Jules

It's all well and good bombing Syria, nobody seems to be addressing the so called refugees, how many ISIS terrorists have come into Europe under this guise who will reek havoc on our streets, make no bones about it they are already here living among us.
And to give Turkey money to stop refugees and give their residents cart blanch visas to come into Europe, sorry if I am sceptical that money will go towards buying weapons, where on earth do our so called leaders come from planet zog.

Rev Jules.

Don't need to be sorry you have you own voice and there's no crime to express our individual thinking.

I do believe the govoment is corrupted by all means, but at the same time I can't sit back while isis go around doing as they please.

There taken lives and getting away with it. :icon_evil:

The refugees is also other problem need to tackle, as isis members are using them as human shields and has cover.

We need to up our game on security measure's and I mean REALLY up it up to a new level.

johnnyb44 · 2nd December 2015, 18:11

Whats worrying is the fact these terrorist are now in our country walking around our streets / shops and past our homes and none of us know who they are. If we take action in Syria to try and stop the root cause, and succeed , will the splinter groups over here take revenge.
We as civilians are easy targets for these callous louts.
The thought of what they could do to us at a large social venue or gathering is truly frightening because they wouldn't think twice about blowing them selves up in the process
If we do go for them in Syria we can't do it half hearted. It has to be a full on assault and be kept up relentlessly and accept innocent people will get caught up in it which is very sad to say in the least.
I also think that our security here back in the U.k has to be ramped up to levels we have never seen before with a military police presence on our streets .
As good as the local police are, there simply is not enough of them about to keep a vigilant eye on things.
It's got to be all or nothing with dealing with them unfortunately.
Half measures and small scale attacks will only bring this problem to our own front door steps

Lordy · 2nd December 2015, 18:25

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Originally Posted by johnnyb44

Whats worrying is the fact these terrorist are now in our country walking around our streets / shops and past our homes and none of us know who they are. If we take action in Syria to try and stop the root cause, and succeed , will the splinter groups over here take revenge.
We as civilians are easy targets for these callous louts.
The thought of what they could do to us at a large social venue or gathering is truly frightening because they wouldn't think twice about blowing them selves up in the process
If we do go for them in Syria we can't do it half hearted. It has to be a full on assault and be kept up relentlessly and accept innocent people will get caught up in it which is very sad to say in the least.
I also think that our security here back in the U.k has to be ramped up to levels we have never seen before with a military police presence on our streets .
As good as the local police are, there simply is not enough of them about to keep a vigilant eye on things.
It's got to be all or nothing with dealing with them unfortunately.
Half measures and small scale attacks will only bring this problem to our own front door steps

Fully agree with you.

Mr Bone · 2nd December 2015, 18:52

Ok, here's controversial

Outlaw all religious meetings in this country for 3 months. Those with the wish to spotlight the undesirable element will surely be able to manage that long without collective prayer.
It's highly likely that the radicalised will not, and by protest will reveal themselves, giving the powers that be the opportunity to weed out majority of a recently imported terrorist threat.

...stands and waits for a thrashing from the left...

2nd December 2015, 16:27	#1
Lordy This is my second home Ford Probe GT. Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Caenarfron Posts: 7,897 Thanks: 3,533 Thanked 2,516 Times in 1,481 Posts	Everytime I hear the words. Every time I hear the words Jeremy Corbyn the first thing that comes into my head is Julie Andrews - The Hills Are Alive with The Sound of Music. That's a sort of world he wants to create, but there those who don't want world peace and take lives of others, Isis are such beings there fiercely loyal to there cause and willing to die for there ideology I admire Corbyn being different and standing up fro him self, he's got balls, but when it comes to the isis threat, he doesn't seem want to stop them, if he went over to a isis camp with piece of paper trying to negotiate, I'm pretty sure they would behead and use him as a trophy, There is no shame in fighting back, look at the Paris attacks, there killing civilians and they wanted to and they did. Corbyn fears fighting will play into isis hands, but doing nothing will also play into there hands as well. they'll use this time to recruit others to serve and join the isis cause, and plan other major attacks. We cherish life and we must protect it. there's no sin in fighting back and helping other nations in need. personally in my blunt opinion military force must be taken, not just airstrikes but boots on the ground as well. I'm sorry that people won't agree but were all individual's and we choose for ourselves. At the same time still respect the wills of others and there ideas. __________________ Regardless of nation and Origin all Soldiers should be remembered past or present. Lest we forget. Never forget them and support our armed forces. https://i.imgur.com/oyca2Lyl.jpg?1 Passion Never Dies It Only Gets Stronger. Go your own way.

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johnnyb44 I really should get out more....... Rover 75 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: north wales Posts: 2,721 Thanks: 1,774 Thanked 902 Times in 507 Posts	Whats worrying is the fact these terrorist are now in our country walking around our streets / shops and past our homes and none of us know who they are. If we take action in Syria to try and stop the root cause, and succeed , will the splinter groups over here take revenge. We as civilians are easy targets for these callous louts. The thought of what they could do to us at a large social venue or gathering is truly frightening because they wouldn't think twice about blowing them selves up in the process If we do go for them in Syria we can't do it half hearted. It has to be a full on assault and be kept up relentlessly and accept innocent people will get caught up in it which is very sad to say in the least. I also think that our security here back in the U.k has to be ramped up to levels we have never seen before with a military police presence on our streets . As good as the local police are, there simply is not enough of them about to keep a vigilant eye on things. It's got to be all or nothing with dealing with them unfortunately. Half measures and small scale attacks will only bring this problem to our own front door steps __________________ Replaced pcv filter, springs, plenum spy hole mod,Bonnet cable divider mod. Wax oiled.Air con recharged. Auto box oil changed , Jules plenum guard fitted .Smoked wind deflectors fitted.S/S Compensator.Club Grill Badge kindly donated by Andyg2011..

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Rev Jules This is my second home Rover 75 Tourer+ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Radcliffe on Trent Posts: 10,719 Thanks: 7,308 Thanked 3,929 Times in 2,051 Posts	It's all well and good bombing Syria, nobody seems to be addressing the so called refugees, how many ISIS terrorists have come into Europe under this guise who will reek havoc on our streets, make no bones about it they are already here living among us. And to give Turkey money to stop refugees and give their residents cart blanch visas to come into Europe, sorry if I am sceptical that money will go towards buying weapons, where on earth do our so called leaders come from planet zog. Rev Jules.

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Mr Bone Gets stuck in 75 Cdt. VW Touareg V6 Tdi. Galaxy 1.9Tdi (x2). R1200GS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Planet Zog Posts: 742 Thanks: 169 Thanked 206 Times in 145 Posts	Ok, here's controversial Outlaw all religious meetings in this country for 3 months. Those with the wish to spotlight the undesirable element will surely be able to manage that long without collective prayer. It's highly likely that the radicalised will not, and by protest will reveal themselves, giving the powers that be the opportunity to weed out majority of a recently imported terrorist threat. ...stands and waits for a thrashing from the left...