Calling the Welsh contingent..

Zeb · 1st June 2008, 19:01

Can somebody from the valleys explain to me about 'The Welsh Knot'?

Many thanks...

JohnDotCom · 1st June 2008, 19:06

The Welsh Knot was apiece of wood hung around the necks of Children who spoke Welsh in the 19th Century.

It was given to any boy overheard speaking Welsh, and he would pass it to a different boy whom he overheard speaking Welsh. At the end of the day, the wearer would be given a lashing.

It was used – in some schools only - to discourage pupils from speaking Welsh, at a time when English was considered by some to be the only suitable medium of education

GreyGhost · 1st June 2008, 19:06

Here you are boyo bach

welsh knot
The Welsh Knot was a piece of wood hung around the necks of children who spoke Welsh in the 19th century.

It was given to any boy overheard speaking Welsh, and he would pass it to a different boy whom he overheard speaking Welsh. At the end of the day, the wearer would be given a lashing.

It was used – in some schools only - to discourage pupils from speaking Welsh, at a time when English was considered by some to be the only suitable medium of education.

GreyGhost · 1st June 2008, 19:07

We visited the same web site. Yes?

Zeb · 1st June 2008, 19:08

Thankyou John. That has helped immensely. Does it have any current significance other than perhaps as a symbol of (past? / present?) English oppression?

Edit: and Grey Ghost natch..

JohnDotCom · 1st June 2008, 19:08

Yes it was easier Mick.

GreyGhost · 1st June 2008, 19:10

I believe there was another piece of equipment used to deter the use of the Welsh language at the time. Rather more sophisticated I think like a vice for the jaw and tongue.

JohnDotCom · 1st June 2008, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeb

Thankyou John. That has helped immensely. Does it have any current significance other than perhaps as a symbol of (past? / present?) English oppression?

Not now you would think but the Return of the Welsh Knot has been claimed by Staff at Thomas Cook who were ordered only to talk in English.
They are currently being taken through the Courts by the Race Relations People, it may have been sorted now though as our local Branch speak in Welsh to those that like to do business in the language.

Zeb · 1st June 2008, 19:23

Cheers, one last request....

'Chwarae Teg' translates as what?

Jules · 1st June 2008, 19:45

Fair play:lol:

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GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	Here you are boyo bach welsh knot The Welsh Knot was a piece of wood hung around the necks of children who spoke Welsh in the 19th century. It was given to any boy overheard speaking Welsh, and he would pass it to a different boy whom he overheard speaking Welsh. At the end of the day, the wearer would be given a lashing. It was used – in some schools only - to discourage pupils from speaking Welsh, at a time when English was considered by some to be the only suitable medium of education.

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GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	We visited the same web site. Yes?

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Zeb Banned MGZT V8 & ZTT 190+LPG Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,089 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thankyou John. That has helped immensely. Does it have any current significance other than perhaps as a symbol of (past? / present?) English oppression? Edit: and Grey Ghost natch..

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GreyGhost Banned 180+ Sport Auto Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bedford Middle Level Posts: 17,787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 5 Posts	I believe there was another piece of equipment used to deter the use of the Welsh language at the time. Rather more sophisticated I think like a vice for the jaw and tongue.

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Zeb Banned MGZT V8 & ZTT 190+LPG Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,089 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cheers, one last request.... 'Chwarae Teg' translates as what?