Rover 25's

Andyb123 · 17th July 2007, 21:26

Not sure if this is the right forum but here goes.

My youngest is looking to buy his first car to start learning in and he fancies a Rover 25 of all things. He found one on auto trader and it just happend to be a diesel model. Idid not know they made a diesel 25, is it the same 2L Cdt as in the 75's.

Also how good are the 25's in general, he really needs to be looking at a smaller enigine I have told him this and to prove it we looked at some insurance quotes.

For a 1.4Rover 25 valued at £1700, with Ashley doing less than 5000miles per year. He is a learner and only 17 so I knew it was going to cost, but what a shock at £2875.

Andy

JohnDotCom · 17th July 2007, 21:36

The 2 Litre Diesel engine is completely different to the ZT/75. It is not BMW or even Common Rail diesel.
It is generally a Rover unit or some had a Foreign Engine, I stand to be corrected.
The 200 400 600 also had the same 2 Litre Engine.

AURORA MG · 17th July 2007, 21:40

It is the 2 litre "L" series engine.

Andyb123 · 17th July 2007, 21:40

Hi John,

Thanks for the reply, so the older Rovers ie., 200, 400 & 600 had BMW diesel power units but the newer 25's didn't?. or are you saying that they did as with the 200's etc.

Cheers,

Andy

JohnDotCom · 17th July 2007, 21:45

No sorry, all the Rovers other than 75 were running the Rover L series Diesel 2 Litre engine.

Andyb123 · 17th July 2007, 21:47

Ok so the big question is are these engines any good?

Cheers,

Andy

JohnDotCom · 17th July 2007, 22:02

Well I have had a 420 and a 620 Diesel and they give very good MPG, are not slow, but can be a bit noisy. I did not have any problems (I have a 620SLDi for shopping now). Rear leg room a bit restricted but on the whole reliable cars. The "00" series were a joint Honda thing at the beginning before updates to the 25 and 45 ranges.
Image wise not generally for younsters (The Ti 620 flys!) the 25 is a nice small car but learning to drive and cost wise the 200's are much better value and there are still some nice ones out there (bubble shape not the early ones) and are very cheap. Still have Airbags, some with A/C etc so can be a good buy imho.

Andyb123 · 17th July 2007, 22:11

John,

Thanks for all the really great info, never knew that about the 200 series, and yes they do look the part for a small car, we have seen a few round here, they do look ok and it might fit his image ( remember at 17 he's gotta have street cred) as they say. He will not entertain a corsa even though they are cheaper to insure.

Cheers and thanks for the helpfull info.

Andy

Jules · 17th July 2007, 23:03

The other model to consider is the MG ZR diesel which also has the L series engine. Cracking car, plenty of poke & suber handling and 55 MPG.

Yes the L series engine was and is still pretty robust unit.
They are good for 200k miles as long as both toothed belts are changed before 90,000 miles.

The only major faults I've seen on high miler L series (but cheap to fix) are the following.

1.Large inlet rubber hose (under pressure from turbo) can split. £30 quid.

2.Wiring loom that runs on top of timing belt cover can wear through on a bracket. Causing intermittent or no running ( fuel cut off valve wiring etc)
This was on Rover 600's

JohnDotCom · 17th July 2007, 23:08

Thanks Jules Forgot to mention the MG variant,
Trouble is when you mention MG and 17 year olds some Insurance Companies have kittens!
I'm getting 45 to 52 MPG in the 620 diesel, the higher BHP of the two engines available.

17th July 2007, 21:26	#1
Andyb123 Loves to post Rover 75 2L CDT Conn Se HiLine SATNAV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wrexham Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rover 25's Not sure if this is the right forum but here goes. My youngest is looking to buy his first car to start learning in and he fancies a Rover 25 of all things. He found one on auto trader and it just happend to be a diesel model. Idid not know they made a diesel 25, is it the same 2L Cdt as in the 75's. Also how good are the 25's in general, he really needs to be looking at a smaller enigine I have told him this and to prove it we looked at some insurance quotes. For a 1.4Rover 25 valued at £1700, with Ashley doing less than 5000miles per year. He is a learner and only 17 so I knew it was going to cost, but what a shock at £2875. Andy

17th July 2007, 21:40	#4
Andyb123 Loves to post Rover 75 2L CDT Conn Se HiLine SATNAV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wrexham Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rover 25's Hi John, Thanks for the reply, so the older Rovers ie., 200, 400 & 600 had BMW diesel power units but the newer 25's didn't?. or are you saying that they did as with the 200's etc. Cheers, Andy

17th July 2007, 21:47	#6
Andyb123 Loves to post Rover 75 2L CDT Conn Se HiLine SATNAV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wrexham Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rover L series diesel Ok so the big question is are these engines any good? Cheers, Andy

17th July 2007, 22:11	#8
Andyb123 Loves to post Rover 75 2L CDT Conn Se HiLine SATNAV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wrexham Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Rover 25's John, Thanks for all the really great info, never knew that about the 200 series, and yes they do look the part for a small car, we have seen a few round here, they do look ok and it might fit his image ( remember at 17 he's gotta have street cred) as they say. He will not entertain a corsa even though they are cheaper to insure. Cheers and thanks for the helpfull info. Andy

17th July 2007, 23:03	#9
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	The other model to consider is the MG ZR diesel which also has the L series engine. Cracking car, plenty of poke & suber handling and 55 MPG. Yes the L series engine was and is still pretty robust unit. They are good for 200k miles as long as both toothed belts are changed before 90,000 miles. The only major faults I've seen on high miler L series (but cheap to fix) are the following. 1.Large inlet rubber hose (under pressure from turbo) can split. £30 quid. 2.Wiring loom that runs on top of timing belt cover can wear through on a bracket. Causing intermittent or no running ( fuel cut off valve wiring etc) This was on Rover 600's __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

17th July 2007, 21:36	#2
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	The 2 Litre Diesel engine is completely different to the ZT/75. It is not BMW or even Common Rail diesel. It is generally a Rover unit or some had a Foreign Engine, I stand to be corrected. The 200 400 600 also had the same 2 Litre Engine.

17th July 2007, 21:40	#3
AURORA MG Banned (EX)-ZT-T190SE in Aurora. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Medway Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 42 Thanked 53 Times in 46 Posts	It is the 2 litre "L" series engine.

17th July 2007, 21:45	#5
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	No sorry, all the Rovers other than 75 were running the Rover L series Diesel 2 Litre engine.

17th July 2007, 22:02	#7
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Well I have had a 420 and a 620 Diesel and they give very good MPG, are not slow, but can be a bit noisy. I did not have any problems (I have a 620SLDi for shopping now). Rear leg room a bit restricted but on the whole reliable cars. The "00" series were a joint Honda thing at the beginning before updates to the 25 and 45 ranges. Image wise not generally for younsters (The Ti 620 flys!) the 25 is a nice small car but learning to drive and cost wise the 200's are much better value and there are still some nice ones out there (bubble shape not the early ones) and are very cheap. Still have Airbags, some with A/C etc so can be a good buy imho.

17th July 2007, 23:08	#10
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks Jules Forgot to mention the MG variant, Trouble is when you mention MG and 17 year olds some Insurance Companies have kittens! I'm getting 45 to 52 MPG in the 620 diesel, the higher BHP of the two engines available.

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