Angle of lean, before it topples?

HarryM1BYT · 11th June 2015, 21:49

Going back to this car lift I have just purchased and an unusual question...

It only lifts one wheel at a time. Lift a rear wheel and due to the engine weight holding both front wheels firmly on the ground, the entire rear is lifted. Lift a front wheel and that side of the car is raised up.

I can with this lift raise the front wheel on one side, the underside of the tyre, by up to 1 metre with the other front wheel remaining on the ground.

Obviously if one side is raised to far, it will topple over on its side - believe me, 1 metre really is quite high

. Has anyone any suggestions as to how far from the vertical it is safe to go.

Mike Noc · 11th June 2015, 21:55

Well the Routemasters could do a good metre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_T4WVnnFU

Sadly the Higer Bus didn't do quite as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQMuY8jNHdw

Any photos of your new lift Harry?

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HarryM1BYT · 11th June 2015, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Well the Routemasters could do a good metre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_T4WVnnFU

Sadly the Higer Bus didn't do quite as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQMuY8jNHdw

Any photos of your new lift Harry?

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3016384683...0a8fec533&cp=1

It seemed they didn't test the Routemaster until it toppled, but only to 34 degrees of list. The Higer went to 42.5 degrees, where it toppled - hope it was a scapper to begin with. It seemed senseless to not restrain it.

They did seem to load up the Routemaster with a simulated passenger load, though not the Higer.

RodgerD · 11th June 2015, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Well the Routemasters could do a good metre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_T4WVnnFU

Sadly the Higer Bus didn't do quite as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQMuY8jNHdw

Any photos of your new lift Harry?

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As well as an RT as featured in the clip.

Mike Noc · 11th June 2015, 22:09

Well spotted Rodger.

The Higer bus is actually leaning further than the standard test too.

I used to work in the coach game and rumour had it that two companies cheated the tilt test to get a pass - you only had to do an initial test when importing a new vehicle.

That lift looks useful Harry - I wouldn't worry about it lifting too far though, the vehicles in the photos look stable enough.

Kevin Williams · 11th June 2015, 22:15

It's actually an RTL not an RT. RTL was a Leyland Titan chassis, RT was an AEC Regent. Bbut very similar bodywork on each.

RodgerD · 11th June 2015, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Kevin Williams

It's actually an RTL not an RT. RTL was a Leyland Titan chassis, RT was an AEC Regent. Bbut very similar bodywork on each.

Your right, didn't look at the bonnet No. RTL286 is Park Royal bodied.

Mike Noc · 11th June 2015, 22:42

Impressive how they used to refurbish both the RT's and the RTL's back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XWTdys3TEA

RodgerD · 11th June 2015, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Impressive how they used to refurbish both the RT's and the RTL's back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XWTdys3TEA

With RM's and I suspect RT(L), when a bus went into the works, it never came out with the same chassis (RT) or subframes (RM) as it took longer to overhaul the body. There was some 'arrangement' with the Ministry regarding bus No's to keep them in ticket, with bus No's being swapped. LT were a law unto themselves as they were even the licensing authority for London and prevented competition.

DMGRS · 11th June 2015, 23:16

Crikey, I'd be terrified of having it at any 'lean' more than a few inches between tyre and road - but I'm not very adventurous.

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Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,584 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Well spotted Rodger. The Higer bus is actually leaning further than the standard test too. I used to work in the coach game and rumour had it that two companies cheated the tilt test to get a pass - you only had to do an initial test when importing a new vehicle. That lift looks useful Harry - I wouldn't worry about it lifting too far though, the vehicles in the photos look stable enough. Last edited by Mike Noc; 11th June 2015 at 22:14..

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