brake hose clamp pliers

[Blink]

Can anyone recommend some decent (but cheap ) brake hose clamps or pliers? I need to get the calipers off for refurbing (and a rear subframe change) so rather than drain the whole braking system I was thinking of doing this:

1. Clamp hose
2. Disconnect hose from caliper
3. (If possible) screw an end cap/blanking plug onto hose
4. Undo hose clamp
5. Remove caliper

I also need something with which to do step 3.

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by Blink

1. Clamp hose
2. Disconnect hose from caliper
3. (If possible) screw an end cap/blanking plug onto hose
4. Undo hose clamp
5. Remove caliper

I also need something with which to do step 3.

Why not just leave the clamp or clamps in place, instead of 3 ?

I don't have any proper clamps, I use tiny G clamps, or self grip wrenches, with some split hose or similar slipped over, to protect the brake flexible.

[RogerHeinz57]

I would suggest that the long term clamping of hoses is detrimental to their design, we understand that at some stage they are likely to get clamped, however this is usually for a limited period of time which is likely to self heal after removal, however the long term is likely to cause damage especially to aged hoses. If going to the effort of fitting refurbished subframe and calipers, why not do the hoses as well. This way you could simply fold the hose and cable tie it tight to prevent leakage. Alternatively, elevate the hose above the height of the ABS unit and cling film the end to limit leak-out.

[RogerHeinz57]

Also, just to offer an alternative, if removing the brake hose from the metal pipe, you could use the bleed nipple cover from the caliper to cover the brake line union end !
Just a thought !

[Blink]

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

Why not just leave the clamp or clamps in place, instead of 3 ?

I don't trust the clamps not to leak. Plus I might knock them off accidentally while struggling with the subframe & arms etc.

Originally Posted by RogerHeinz57

I would suggest that the long term clamping of hoses is detrimental to their design, we understand that at some stage they are likely to get clamped, however this is usually for a limited period of time which is likely to self heal after removal, however the long term is likely to cause damage especially to aged hoses. If going to the effort of fitting refurbished subframe and calipers, why not do the hoses as well. This way you could simply fold the hose and cable tie it tight to prevent leakage. Alternatively, elevate the hose above the height of the ABS unit and cling film the end to limit leak-out.

I'll be changing the hoses as well but I didn't want to drain it down completely yet in case something goes wrong with the rest of the job.

Will folding & cable tying the hose stop leakage/seepage? Ditto elevating & cling film?

Originally Posted by RogerHeinz57

Also, just to offer an alternative, if removing the brake hose from the metal pipe, you could use the bleed nipple cover from the caliper to cover the brake line union end !
Just a thought !

I don't think the bleed nipple cover will stop fluid escape at the union end. A screw on end cap (like a plumbing end cap) would do the job if I could find something that fits either the hose end or the union end. I can't see anything obvious here - https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID001566.

[Blink]

For info, here's a clear pic of the ends on a new hose - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223624544582 - my new ones look the same as this but they're Delphi branded.

[Blink]

This would work if it didn't have a hole in it https://www.motorsport-tools.com/aut...-unf-3-16.html.

[RogerHeinz57]

Agreed, but the alternatives are to fit a blanked off union with the hole filled in with chemical metal compound and simply fitted in place with a tweek to ensure a leak free false joint.
If the cable tie job is to be used it will need to be a Daddy style one where you can get it monster tight (Assumes the hose wont be re-used)

There used to be brake pipe end caps for this very task years ago, but I have checked the usual paces for availability to no avail.
They were treated rubberised caps that arrived in a set to enable almost any application designed to have a temporary seal for such activity, but now it seems to be acceptable to simply make excessive amounts of mess, and waste fluids unnecessarily !
Oh how the times have changed !

Maybe worth a look :
https://creationsmotorsport.com/inde...bung-1217.html

[clf]

you will have to do an almost complete drain anyway, remember your caliper will be empty, so I would just drain it down.

When I replaced my calipers, I had refurbished a second set so I didnt need to have the car off the road, which may be worth considering.

[RogerHeinz57]

Another idea, assuming the flexi hoses are not to be re-used, simply cut it and insert a bolt in the hole, possibly secure in place using a hose clip tightened up !
Sometimes the obvious is staring you in the face, but goes un-noticed !