Esso

m2n · 5th January 2019, 16:53

Whilst fueling up on Friday to come home I fueled up at an Esso station with their Unleaded Synergy fuel. Full to the brim,I clocked 198 miles from Wallingford (near Oxford) to Preston Lancs. and I only used just over 1/4 tank... done that trip quite a few times and I always use about 1/2 tank... drove the same steady 70 mph, got slowed down in M6 roadworks but that always happens at least till 2022 when the roadworks finish. So in relation to a previous thread I really wonder if branded fuel is better......

impvan · 5th January 2019, 18:39

Do you normally fill it to the brim?

What I find with mine is that when I fill to the brim it takes about 80 miles before the needle even moves...

Typically fill it in Aberdeen, and the needle only hits the Full mark after Dundee.

m2n · 5th January 2019, 19:14

No I don't, was on xmas holiday visiting family down south, had just under half tank, and as I was about to negotiate A34/M40/M42/M6 and all the roadworks and Friday traffic I put £50 in tank and petrol nozzle clicked once.

SideValve · 5th January 2019, 20:08

Blimey, that my local petrol station. Not cheap :¬)

Unless its 5 litres for the lawnmower, I prefer to use the Sainsbury's at Heyford Hill but if its that good perhaps I should give it a go.

m2n · 5th January 2019, 20:57

Esso Garage Station Road, Wallingford.Think I paid about extra 2p litre than the normal supermarket fuel.

hamster19 · 5th January 2019, 21:53

Brim to brim is the proper test, obviously using the gauge is inaccurate

MSS · 6th January 2019, 07:48

The only way to do this accurately is a brim to brim test over a number of tankfuls.

I keep a spreadsheet which gives the MPG for each tankful and the long-term average. Currently that is 68k miles for the CDT (manual) and the MPG is 47.x MPG.

A few years ago I did a comparison in my petrol Omega driving at night over long distances under identical conditions for the same journeys. Shell V Power gave about 6MPG better than ordinary fuel.

These days I only use Shell - either ordinary or V-Power and add 75mm of Millers Eco Power to each tank in the diesel. All I can say is that I have never felt the need to get a remap.

T-Cut · 6th January 2019, 09:35

You could also calibrate the OBD system using your brim-brim calculation. You'd then get an MPG readout on the dash as accurate as the manual method. Once done, it shouldn't need touching again unless there's a significant change in your driving conditions.

TC

coab · 6th January 2019, 15:50

Plain and simple. In 1991 I was made redundant and had to travel from Cove try to Reditch where I found a job. It was approx 27 miles each way and I used to put £5 in each day in my 1985 1.6 cavalier. I never had any money so always lived on the red bit of the fuel gauge! I always used Murco petrol and got 1/4 of a tank but if used Esso down the road the gauge only showed 1/3 of a tank. End of the day the gauge red the same.
A bit like Sainsbury’s Vodka and Smernoff you drink 1/2 bottle of the cheaper brand and you are drunk but drink the Smernoff you have drunk less.
I’m going on experience so ignore me lol!

bl52krz · 6th January 2019, 16:23

Usually get over 200 miles when I brim, with needle on three quarters full.

5th January 2019, 16:53	#1
m2n Gets stuck in Rover 75 2004 Contemporary SE 2.5 Auto Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Preston Posts: 513 Thanks: 67 Thanked 56 Times in 46 Posts	Esso Whilst fueling up on Friday to come home I fueled up at an Esso station with their Unleaded Synergy fuel. Full to the brim,I clocked 198 miles from Wallingford (near Oxford) to Preston Lancs. and I only used just over 1/4 tank... done that trip quite a few times and I always use about 1/2 tank... drove the same steady 70 mph, got slowed down in M6 roadworks but that always happens at least till 2022 when the roadworks finish. So in relation to a previous thread I really wonder if branded fuel is better...... __________________ To have and not need, than need and not have. Eve was born on: Tuesday 14th September 2004 @ 07.54.23 Date of first Registration: Friday 24th September 2004 She was the: 103,715th 75 to run off production line, out of 112,381 She was the: 382nd 75 2.5 V6 Contemporary SE to be made out of 686 She was the: 1,415th 75 in Firefrost Red (code CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75's

5th January 2019, 19:14	#3
m2n Gets stuck in Rover 75 2004 Contemporary SE 2.5 Auto Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Preston Posts: 513 Thanks: 67 Thanked 56 Times in 46 Posts	No I don't, was on xmas holiday visiting family down south, had just under half tank, and as I was about to negotiate A34/M40/M42/M6 and all the roadworks and Friday traffic I put £50 in tank and petrol nozzle clicked once. __________________ To have and not need, than need and not have. Eve was born on: Tuesday 14th September 2004 @ 07.54.23 Date of first Registration: Friday 24th September 2004 She was the: 103,715th 75 to run off production line, out of 112,381 She was the: 382nd 75 2.5 V6 Contemporary SE to be made out of 686 She was the: 1,415th 75 in Firefrost Red (code CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75's

5th January 2019, 20:08	#4
SideValve Gets stuck in Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Oxford Posts: 767 Thanks: 141 Thanked 204 Times in 141 Posts	Blimey, that my local petrol station. Not cheap :¬) Unless its 5 litres for the lawnmower, I prefer to use the Sainsbury's at Heyford Hill but if its that good perhaps I should give it a go. __________________ The Story So Far: Austin A35, Morris Oxford, Triumph Herald, Mini 850, Mini 1000, Austin Allegro, MG Midget, MGB GT, Rover SD1 2600, Austin Maxi, Rover 200, Rover 825, Rover 800, Bedford TK, Range Rover 3.9 efi, Rover 400, Rover 100, MGF, Rover 25, Rover 75 1.8, Rover 75 Connoisseur SE 2.0 V6, MGF 1.8i, Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.0 V6 Auto, Morris Eight Series E, Morris Minor 1275.

5th January 2019, 20:57	#5
m2n Gets stuck in Rover 75 2004 Contemporary SE 2.5 Auto Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Preston Posts: 513 Thanks: 67 Thanked 56 Times in 46 Posts	Esso Garage Station Road, Wallingford.Think I paid about extra 2p litre than the normal supermarket fuel. __________________ To have and not need, than need and not have. Eve was born on: Tuesday 14th September 2004 @ 07.54.23 Date of first Registration: Friday 24th September 2004 She was the: 103,715th 75 to run off production line, out of 112,381 She was the: 382nd 75 2.5 V6 Contemporary SE to be made out of 686 She was the: 1,415th 75 in Firefrost Red (code CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75's

6th January 2019, 16:23	#10
bl52krz This is my second home Rover 75 cdt club + Rover 2.5 KV6 Conni SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,392 Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 2,262 Times in 1,729 Posts	Usually get over 200 miles when I brim, with needle on three quarters full. __________________ Great Barr, Birmingham.

5th January 2019, 18:39	#2
impvan Avid contributor ZT-T Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: In the trees, near Caernarfon... and frequently Aberdeenshire, and sometimes Romania.. Posts: 143 Thanks: 5 Thanked 36 Times in 29 Posts	Do you normally fill it to the brim? What I find with mine is that when I fill to the brim it takes about 80 miles before the needle even moves... Typically fill it in Aberdeen, and the needle only hits the Full mark after Dundee.

5th January 2019, 21:53	#6
hamster19 Gets stuck in tourer conn CDTI Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: morpeth,northumberland Posts: 834 Thanks: 381 Thanked 112 Times in 105 Posts	Brim to brim is the proper test, obviously using the gauge is inaccurate

6th January 2019, 07:48	#7
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,084 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	The only way to do this accurately is a brim to brim test over a number of tankfuls. I keep a spreadsheet which gives the MPG for each tankful and the long-term average. Currently that is 68k miles for the CDT (manual) and the MPG is 47.x MPG. A few years ago I did a comparison in my petrol Omega driving at night over long distances under identical conditions for the same journeys. Shell V Power gave about 6MPG better than ordinary fuel. These days I only use Shell - either ordinary or V-Power and add 75mm of Millers Eco Power to each tank in the diesel. All I can say is that I have never felt the need to get a remap.

6th January 2019, 09:35	#8
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,752 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	You could also calibrate the OBD system using your brim-brim calculation. You'd then get an MPG readout on the dash as accurate as the manual method. Once done, it shouldn't need touching again unless there's a significant change in your driving conditions. TC

6th January 2019, 15:50	#9
coab This is my second home 2007 57 GOLF GTi EDITION 30 DSG Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Newport Shropshire and Coventry. Posts: 5,138 Thanks: 2,424 Thanked 1,452 Times in 852 Posts	Plain and simple. In 1991 I was made redundant and had to travel from Cove try to Reditch where I found a job. It was approx 27 miles each way and I used to put £5 in each day in my 1985 1.6 cavalier. I never had any money so always lived on the red bit of the fuel gauge! I always used Murco petrol and got 1/4 of a tank but if used Esso down the road the gauge only showed 1/3 of a tank. End of the day the gauge red the same. A bit like Sainsbury’s Vodka and Smernoff you drink 1/2 bottle of the cheaper brand and you are drunk but drink the Smernoff you have drunk less. I’m going on experience so ignore me lol!