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Old 3rd July 2017, 19:01   #11
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It will also depend on your cameras ability to auto focus with an extension tube at that distance - I cannot say how it would perform. You can of course focus manually but that may not be easy either with a DSLR.

See how much sharper the images get when I use the 60mm. The shots taken when I use this lens are usually 1-2 feet away which is quite nice distance for insects. Not to close - not to far.

You could always get some cheap tubes and have a play using your zoom lens. I think the results will not be great but you can get a feel for it.

The next step would be a macro lens of 90-100 mm

Having said that I remember using my 12mp DSLR with a 90mm macro lens. The auto focus was so slow I had to use manual focus. That made shooting slow an focusing difficult. It so much easier with my new camera and with the addition of flash.

This sort of photography is quite tricky and you get a lot of dud shots but I get a lot less than I used to.



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It will depend on a few things regarding the quality of lens and camera and getting all the conditions right but it is possible. It is not the best solution but if the insect is up high it is the only way. I hope to get a better quality 70-210 later this year and I am eager to try that with an extension tube.

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Wow, very nice!!
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It will also depend on your cameras ability to auto focus with an extension tube at that distance - I cannot say how it would perform. You can of course focus manually but that may not be easy either with a DSLR.

See how much sharper the images get when I use the 60mm. The shots taken when I use this lens are usually 1-2 feet away which is quite nice distance for insects. Not to close - not to far.

You could always get some cheap tubes and have a play using your zoom lens. I think the results will not be great but you can get a feel for it.

The next step would be a macro lens of 90-100 mm

Having said that I remember using my 12mp DSLR with a 90mm macro lens. The auto focus was so slow I had to use manual focus. That made shooting slow an focusing difficult. It so much easier with my new camera and with the addition of flash.

This sort of photography is quite tricky and you get a lot of dud shots but I get a lot less than I used to.



Shot with the 60mm

Bumblebee on Buddleia by Paul Stickley, on Flickr
Oh wow!!
How far from the bee were you for that one?? That is astonishing and just what I want to achieve!
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Oh wow!!
How far from the bee were you for that one?? That is astonishing and just what I want to achieve!

1- 2 feet

It is cropped so a camera with higher MP count is good, mine is 24mp which is becoming the norm.

You need a really sharp lens - those long zooms will never be that sharp.

You will need a great sensor - mine is pretty good.

Then you need to nail focus and expose correctly - I use flash and have really fast and accurate auto focus

I do a lot of post processing with Lightroom.


Here is an old one I took with my 12 mp DSLR a few years back. I used a 90mm macro lens.

You can see it does not have the same sharpness as the one above.

I used to average say 1 in 50 good ones with my DSLR but these days maybe 1 in 10. When I first started I could shoot for hours and not get a good one lol.

I would just add that this is for insect shooting. If you want to do maros of an object like a coin indoors you can use a tripod, do long exposures, get as close as you like etc etc. It is a different ball game.



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Here is another with the 12 MP DSLR and 90mm macro lens. Again, it is not bad but not as good as I can get with my newer/better gear.


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Excellent photo's again.

You raise a very good point..

Maybe I won't be able to get the results I want no matter what the lens is....
I have a Canon 700D.

I have seen a couple of lenses for sale I'm interested in.. I will have to give it some thought.
SIGMA 105MM F2.8 EX DG OS MACRO - CANON FIT
TOKINA AT-X 100MM F2.8 PRO MACRO - CANON
CANON EF 100 mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens
Any opinions on any of the above? They all look a much the same thing to me, just a different brand.
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A quick look on DXO says the Canon is a bit sharper than the Sigma on a 700D

The Tokina was not tested on the 700D


I think with that lens and camera it should be able to get sharper images than my old DSLR with tamron 90mm macro but not as good as my Newer mirrorless camera with 60mm plus extension tube. This takes no account of autofocus etc - just the sensor with lens combination.
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A quick look on DXO says the Canon is a bit sharper than the Sigma on a 700D

The Tokina was not tested on the 700D

Ok, sounds like the Canon is the one to get..
Were there any example photos on the site you checked?
I'd be interested to take a look.
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No, but just google the lens I am sure many will have reviewed it.

I would add I know nothing about Canon cameras. !!!!!
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Hi Phil,

Not sure if you can view this if not a member but I'll post it anyway.

https://www.eos-magazine-forum.com/s...357#post389357

Might be worth a look
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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the link, it won't open unfortunately.
What is it?
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