ZT 260 Development Car VIN 007 - Page 2

Robson Rover Repair · 2nd February 2010, 05:26

I am 100% jelous of you, and you know what it will look fantastic when finished.

Bernard LPG · 2nd February 2010, 17:52

Best of luck with this project, it was hard enough finding bits for a much lesser 'damaged' car, as you know.
(Tony found me a front bumper just as I had given up and was prepared to go for a pre-facelift model)

Robson Rover Repair · 2nd February 2010, 18:42

On the plus side, there are three hairpins that you will be able to sell on. Shame about you keeping that apex.

moonstoneboy · 5th February 2010, 12:20

So what is the history as to how it got in to that state.

tonybubble · 5th February 2010, 13:26

Here's what I know so far:

A E Wilcox, a long standing MG Rover dealer, bought 07 from Price Waterhouse, MG Rover's Receivers in early 2006 - the engine and gearbox were aleady mising then. Initially they were planning to re-build the car, but in the end thought it uneconomic. Subsequently, the car became an extension of their parts bin! Enter yours truely.

Recently received the attached message, which is really interesting:

Firstly may I introduce myself, my name is Simon Fairbrother, I was the Powertrain Project Leader for the X12/13 programme, namely the V8 ZT's.

The car, or at least what is left of it, was the first usable auto V8 built by MGR, not the first V8 auto built, but certainly the first capable of being driven. Nic Fasci is correct it was never Supercharged. It is due to this car that the RD12 (Rover V8) programme was born.

The car was in essence a skunk project, I think the difficult birth of the whole V8 project is fairly well known and during the time that the project was 'shelved' this car was engineered by a few of us kept on the project.

This car (I cannot recall the SDV number, T7 I think) was originally a manual ZT, we took the car, removed the powerunit, cut out the trans tunnel, fitting the wider tunnel necessary for the auto trans, installed a new powerunit, electrical harness etc and made the remaining modifications required to complete the car.

The car was then presented to the Board for assessment, the results were far more favourable than expected, the original remit was to produce a V8 Auto MG, but the refinement of the car was such that the decision was taken to engineer the Rover V8.

This particular car was then used for a number of engineering activities including pass by noise certification in Idiada, Spain. Whilst this was taking place a new 'Rover' body was being prepared and ultimately the powerunit, being unique, was transplanted into the 'Rover' derivative and NVH/Interior trim work continued.

So there you have a little history, if you are to restore it to its original state you will have an MG ZT V8 Manual, alternatively you could restore it to the one and only MG ZT V8 Auto that ever existed.

Simon

PS the auto ECU's are unique, a manual ECU does not have the hardware to control the Auto Transmission.

Departed 32016 · 5th February 2010, 13:46

so looks like you are needing a 75 v8 trans / engine then...

tonybubble · 5th February 2010, 14:47

Yes Please!!

moonstoneboy · 5th February 2010, 15:00

So there you have a little history, if you are to restore it to its original state you will have an MG ZT V8 Manual, alternatively you could restore it to the one and only MG ZT V8 Auto that ever existed.

A little more challenging but it would seem it should be an auto

pondweed · 5th February 2010, 15:33

are auto ECUs like hens teeth? presumably the SV stuff is all manual?

VMax1000 · 5th February 2010, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by kieranswood

so looks like you are needing a 75 v8 trans / engine then...

there's a seller on ebay that advertising an auto box for 795. can't find it at the moment but there's a link on the 260ties I'll try to find.

2nd February 2010, 05:26	#11
Robson Rover Repair NI/ROI RS ZT-T 190 / 75 Diesel x3 / 6 door limo / 216 Cabby / Rover 25 van Join Date: May 2009 Location: Antrim Posts: 8,103 Thanks: 299 Thanked 1,046 Times in 568 Posts	I am 100% jelous of you, and you know what it will look fantastic when finished. __________________ Cheers, Colin Robson Rover Repair on Youtube DISCOUNTED MTEC BRAKES FOR ALL MG ROVER'S Braided hoses, more coating and pad options for 2024

2nd February 2010, 18:42	#13
Robson Rover Repair NI/ROI RS ZT-T 190 / 75 Diesel x3 / 6 door limo / 216 Cabby / Rover 25 van Join Date: May 2009 Location: Antrim Posts: 8,103 Thanks: 299 Thanked 1,046 Times in 568 Posts	On the plus side, there are three hairpins that you will be able to sell on. Shame about you keeping that apex. __________________ Cheers, Colin Robson Rover Repair on Youtube DISCOUNTED MTEC BRAKES FOR ALL MG ROVER'S Braided hoses, more coating and pad options for 2024

5th February 2010, 12:20	#14
moonstoneboy Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connoisseur SE CDT Tourer - naturally in Moonstone Green Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Surrey - near Gatwick Airport Posts: 1,316 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	So what is the history as to how it got in to that state. __________________ Paul Unfortunately for you lot, we are now stuck behind a broken train. We'll be here for quite a while but I don't care, I'm now on overtime. London tube train announcement

5th February 2010, 15:00	#18
moonstoneboy Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connoisseur SE CDT Tourer - naturally in Moonstone Green Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Surrey - near Gatwick Airport Posts: 1,316 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	So there you have a little history, if you are to restore it to its original state you will have an MG ZT V8 Manual, alternatively you could restore it to the one and only MG ZT V8 Auto that ever existed. A little more challenging but it would seem it should be an auto __________________ Paul Unfortunately for you lot, we are now stuck behind a broken train. We'll be here for quite a while but I don't care, I'm now on overtime. London tube train announcement

2nd February 2010, 17:52	#12
Bernard LPG I really should get out more....... 75 V6 Saloon 2003 LPG MGZT V8 260 LPG Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evesham Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Best of luck with this project, it was hard enough finding bits for a much lesser 'damaged' car, as you know. (Tony found me a front bumper just as I had given up and was prepared to go for a pre-facelift model)

5th February 2010, 13:26	#15
tonybubble ZT, 75 & 260 Rescue 2002 MG ZT 260 (007), 2003 MG ZT-T 260 SE, 2004 75 CDTI Tourer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Brent Posts: 2,447 Thanks: 88 Thanked 50 Times in 29 Posts	Here's what I know so far: A E Wilcox, a long standing MG Rover dealer, bought 07 from Price Waterhouse, MG Rover's Receivers in early 2006 - the engine and gearbox were aleady mising then. Initially they were planning to re-build the car, but in the end thought it uneconomic. Subsequently, the car became an extension of their parts bin! Enter yours truely. Recently received the attached message, which is really interesting: Firstly may I introduce myself, my name is Simon Fairbrother, I was the Powertrain Project Leader for the X12/13 programme, namely the V8 ZT's. The car, or at least what is left of it, was the first usable auto V8 built by MGR, not the first V8 auto built, but certainly the first capable of being driven. Nic Fasci is correct it was never Supercharged. It is due to this car that the RD12 (Rover V8) programme was born. The car was in essence a skunk project, I think the difficult birth of the whole V8 project is fairly well known and during the time that the project was 'shelved' this car was engineered by a few of us kept on the project. This car (I cannot recall the SDV number, T7 I think) was originally a manual ZT, we took the car, removed the powerunit, cut out the trans tunnel, fitting the wider tunnel necessary for the auto trans, installed a new powerunit, electrical harness etc and made the remaining modifications required to complete the car. The car was then presented to the Board for assessment, the results were far more favourable than expected, the original remit was to produce a V8 Auto MG, but the refinement of the car was such that the decision was taken to engineer the Rover V8. This particular car was then used for a number of engineering activities including pass by noise certification in Idiada, Spain. Whilst this was taking place a new 'Rover' body was being prepared and ultimately the powerunit, being unique, was transplanted into the 'Rover' derivative and NVH/Interior trim work continued. So there you have a little history, if you are to restore it to its original state you will have an MG ZT V8 Manual, alternatively you could restore it to the one and only MG ZT V8 Auto that ever existed. Simon PS the auto ECU's are unique, a manual ECU does not have the hardware to control the Auto Transmission.

5th February 2010, 13:46	#16
Departed 32016 This is my second home Rover 75 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 5,190 Thanks: 101 Thanked 257 Times in 145 Posts	so looks like you are needing a 75 v8 trans / engine then...

5th February 2010, 14:47	#17
tonybubble ZT, 75 & 260 Rescue 2002 MG ZT 260 (007), 2003 MG ZT-T 260 SE, 2004 75 CDTI Tourer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Brent Posts: 2,447 Thanks: 88 Thanked 50 Times in 29 Posts	Yes Please!!

5th February 2010, 15:33	#19
pondweed This is my second home Waiter, Waiter! I seem to have a Roomster in my drive... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sussex Posts: 3,268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	are auto ECUs like hens teeth? presumably the SV stuff is all manual?