Vauxhall gearboxes

Darcydog · 28th March 2019, 05:36

My son has had an Astra almost since new - it was a demonstrator- a sporty one at a stated 150bhp.

It had a new gearbox at 43k Miles - now needs another at 87k.

Seems the bearings go.

And it’s a known issue - so be warned if you see a cheap Astra/Vauxhall

oxfordblue75 · 28th March 2019, 06:31

If its the six speed box it's a known issue

SCP440 · 28th March 2019, 06:45

Probably an argument for gearbox oil change if it was possible.

There is only one winner on this stuff that is sealed for life and its not the customer.

trikey · 28th March 2019, 06:47

I know two Astra owners who have got gearbox issues at the moment.

ceedy · 28th March 2019, 06:51

Is this the same M32 box as on Some Fiats ?

Our shot its bearings at 48k had it rebuilt with the new uprated kit and all ok , but cost nearly 1600 in total ( inc labour) with a new clutch/ DMF

C

Andy_with_a_screwdriver · 28th March 2019, 07:55

Our Zafira has the same M32 gearbox, it's getting noisy on 5th/6th gear apparently that bearing goes first. See my prices I had quoted to me for a gearbox recondition and clutch change https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...d.php?t=293687 Highest is £2064!!

I had a recommendation for A&S in Halifax, Yorkshire. Run by a guy called Andy, they just seem to recondition these gearboxes all day. Another forum member has used him and said all was very good cost about £300 to recondition it, they replace bearings whilst the box is in situ, he travelled from Scotland to get it done.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/AnSClutc...ology/reviews/

I'm seriously considering travelling to get mine done, just need to fix the rover first!

With regard to gear oil changes, I've tried and can't find any info on it nor can I see a drain plug.

Something that is so simple on the jatco box seems virtually impossible on the GM one.

Eddy600 · 28th March 2019, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_with_a_screwdriver

Our Zafira has the same M32 gearbox, it's getting noisy on 5th/6th gear apparently that bearing goes first. See my prices I had quoted to me for a gearbox recondition and clutch change https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...d.php?t=293687 Highest is £2064!!

I had a recommendation for A&S in Halifax, Yorkshire. Run by a guy called Andy, they just seem to recondition these gearboxes all day. Another forum member has used him and said all was very good cost about £300 to recondition it, they replace bearings whilst the box is in situ, he travelled from Scotland to get it done.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/AnSClutc...ology/reviews/

I'm seriously considering travelling to get mine done, just need to fix the rover first!

With regard to gear oil changes, I've tried and can't find any info on it nor can I see a drain plug.

Something that is so simple on the jatco box seems virtually impossible on the GM one.

Drove past that garage the other day and didn't even know it was there, it looks like it works out of another garage called his & hers, if you need any local info just send a pm

MSS · 28th March 2019, 18:56

The problem is on the M32 gearbox and concerns size of bearings used in the design. This is not a Vauxhall gearbox but a Getrag and is also used on some Fiat and Alpha cars.

There are solutions in the form of upgraded gearbox end structure and bearings.

mcd840 · 28th March 2019, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy600

Drove past that garage the other day and didn't even know it was there, it looks like it works out of another garage called his & hers, if you need any local info just send a pm

Hi, That is correct Andy simply uses one of there ramps. I traveled to him from Scotland as I would not entertain the prices up here from so called "specialists". As a mod he overfills the box so that the end 6th bearing as actually submerged rather than getting a splash now and again. I will add however that when I got there and he took the car for a quick drive he soon told me that if I had been local then he would have sent me back home and told me to come back when its alot worse but as I had traveled we had it done anyway. I still have the old ones in the garage, to the eye they look fine, I just panicked when I heard the whine. Shortly after this was done I sold the car as going back to a petrol car was not for me after coming from my previous 2.2 diesel vec and diesel 75.

cb750chris · 28th March 2019, 22:08

Had a similar sounding problem in a Honda Jazz recently. Ended up stripping the gearbox, replacing the bearings then reassembling.
As in the last post, I then slightly overfilled to try and improve lubrication on the bearing that had previously failed.

Sounds like a more common fault than it should be - part of a built in failure to sell more cars? (Once the original owner has sold the car it becomes so easy for the manufacturer to blame previous drivers? And new car buyers don't normally care what happens when a car is >5 years old as they have a new one to drive)

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Darcydog This is my second home Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,428 Thanks: 3,123 Thanked 3,170 Times in 2,096 Posts	Vauxhall gearboxes My son has had an Astra almost since new - it was a demonstrator- a sporty one at a stated 150bhp. It had a new gearbox at 43k Miles - now needs another at 87k. Seems the bearings go. And it’s a known issue - so be warned if you see a cheap Astra/Vauxhall Last edited by Darcydog; 28th March 2019 at 06:01..

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28th March 2019, 06:31	#2
oxfordblue75 Gets stuck in rover 75 saloon 1.8T Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: saltash Posts: 701 Thanks: 150 Thanked 235 Times in 160 Posts	If its the six speed box it's a known issue

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SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	Probably an argument for gearbox oil change if it was possible. There is only one winner on this stuff that is sealed for life and its not the customer.

28th March 2019, 07:55	#6
Andy_with_a_screwdriver Gets stuck in Rover 75 Tourer CDTi Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Plymouth Posts: 692 Thanks: 141 Thanked 153 Times in 117 Posts	Our Zafira has the same M32 gearbox, it's getting noisy on 5th/6th gear apparently that bearing goes first. See my prices I had quoted to me for a gearbox recondition and clutch change https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...d.php?t=293687 Highest is £2064!! I had a recommendation for A&S in Halifax, Yorkshire. Run by a guy called Andy, they just seem to recondition these gearboxes all day. Another forum member has used him and said all was very good cost about £300 to recondition it, they replace bearings whilst the box is in situ, he travelled from Scotland to get it done. https://www.facebook.com/pg/AnSClutc...ology/reviews/ I'm seriously considering travelling to get mine done, just need to fix the rover first! With regard to gear oil changes, I've tried and can't find any info on it nor can I see a drain plug. Something that is so simple on the jatco box seems virtually impossible on the GM one.

28th March 2019, 18:56	#8
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,083 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	The problem is on the M32 gearbox and concerns size of bearings used in the design. This is not a Vauxhall gearbox but a Getrag and is also used on some Fiat and Alpha cars. There are solutions in the form of upgraded gearbox end structure and bearings.

28th March 2019, 22:08	#10
cb750chris Trader Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 849 Thanks: 201 Thanked 292 Times in 200 Posts	Had a similar sounding problem in a Honda Jazz recently. Ended up stripping the gearbox, replacing the bearings then reassembling. As in the last post, I then slightly overfilled to try and improve lubrication on the bearing that had previously failed. Sounds like a more common fault than it should be - part of a built in failure to sell more cars? (Once the original owner has sold the car it becomes so easy for the manufacturer to blame previous drivers? And new car buyers don't normally care what happens when a car is >5 years old as they have a new one to drive)