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Old 17th September 2016, 14:40   #21
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Simple solution is making it law that every vehicle is fitted with a jamming device which operates when the ignition is swirched on. Fitted on all new cars, up to 3yrs old by recall and at mot for 3 and over. If its tampered with then the car gets crushed.

Harsh, but drastic measures are required.

People are dying through idiots looking at a phone when 'driving'.
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Old 17th September 2016, 15:07   #22
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Simple solution is making it law that every vehicle is fitted with a jamming device which operates when the ignition is swirched on. Fitted on all new cars, up to 3yrs old by recall and at mot for 3 and over. If its tampered with then the car gets crushed.

Harsh, but drastic measures are required.

People are dying through idiots looking at a phone when 'driving'.
The concept is flawed; that boring legal term "Practicable"; my first thought was how would such a device work when one needs to make an emergency call; yes I have made a call whilst driving- twice- to report a violent incident and an attack on me when driving a bus about ten years ago.

Who would pay for these parts to be fitted?

In a world where people are getting wiser to "Big Brother" how would these installation engineers be vetted?

I've an inquisitive and practical mind so these are questions; not personal digs.

The real answer here is more visible policing. Obviously the (seems like millions) cameras are not working.

A particularly innovative idea was a police force somewhere using an LGV to spot offenders. Look good for a television news feature.

Lives and unnecessary delays are caused by this and the only real answer is a very visual deterrent. Cameras don't work.
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Old 17th September 2016, 15:08   #23
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does not matter, pump them all thorough hands free...
Right, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. What if say a passenger wants to look at the internet or use it as a satnav or post on here?
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Old 17th September 2016, 15:24   #24
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its easy.... phone manufacturers send an update saying your phone will only work in hands free mode if you are travelling faster than 10 MPH...

95% of phones have GPS and it wont be long before they all do as standard...
make it impossible to use on the move in manual modes...
Fair enough but what if you are on public transport?
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Old 17th September 2016, 15:27   #25
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Record all calls to and from vehicles, and make them hugely expensive... £5,000 a pop unless you can justify the call innit....
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Prob is.. even talking to passengers is a distraction, as are Sat-navs, so where do we stop...
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Old 17th September 2016, 15:32   #26
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Fair enough but what if you are on public transport?
What's more annoying than listening to half a strangers conversation on a bus...
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Old 17th September 2016, 15:49   #27
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Jeff, chatty passengers tend to pose less of a risk than someone on the end of a mobile phone. Passengers will usually moderate the conversation as to what is around them, passengers are aware of your surroundings as you are. Drivers do not need to use their visual memory when chatting to passengers, talking in person involves non verbal cues which ease the flow of conversation.

Having someone on the end of a mobile phone are completely oblivious to your surroundings, phone conversations are more taxing because they lack these cues, plus! conversations over the phone cause the driver to visually imagine what they’re talking about which uses other parts of the brain and reduces concentration anonymously.
I've yet to see screaming kids in the back of the car moderate their behaviour to their surroundings let alone a nagging wife

I'm afraid I'll disagree with you on that score, a distraction to your concentration is a distraction however or whatever form it takes.
I do however believe that idiots trying to control a car whilst texting, reading emails, playing games or trying to operate a mobile device are an accident waiting to happen .
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Old 17th September 2016, 16:05   #28
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I've yet to see screaming kids in the back of the car moderate their behaviour to their surroundings let alone a nagging wife

I'm afraid I'll disagree with you on that score, a distraction to your concentration is a distraction however or whatever form it takes.
I do however believe that idiots trying to control a car whilst texting, reading emails, playing games or trying to operate a mobile device are an accident waiting to happen .
Not a problem Jeff, we all have our own views, opinions and experiences.

I believe and many others, including ROSPA, and the law itself that police can still stop, penalise/fine you if they think you’re distracted and not in control of your vehicle even when using Handsfree.
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Not a problem Jeff, we all have our own views, opinions and experiences.

I believe and many others, including ROSPA, and the law itself that police can still stop, penalise/fine you if they think you’re distracted and not in control of your vehicle even when using Handsfree.
That's as it should be.

If your not driving with due care and attention for whatever reason then I would hope that the Police would indeed pull you over and discuss the manner of your driving and deal with it appropriately.

I think on that we can all agree.
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Old 17th September 2016, 17:05   #30
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I don't even have the radio on while driving and I am fortunate to have a co pilot ( Lilian ) when I use the sat/nav to read thats all then I get is turn here etc
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