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suspend driving licences for things other then traffic offences?
Suspend for such things as failing to pay money ordered by the court, fines, compensation etc. I'm thinking more for those that refuse to pay and not so much for those that cannot afford to pay a reasonable amount. macafee2 |
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1. suspend driving licences for things other than traffic offences?
2. Suspend for such things as failing to pay money ordered by the court, fines, compensation etc. 3a. I'm thinking more for those that refuse to pay b. not so much for those that cannot afford to pay a reasonable amount. Generally, how it should be but probably wrong: 1. No. 2. No. 3a. Not without further court appearances. That is a different offence and needs a separate charge. b. There is adequate facility for appeal on many grounds and for those in hardship the original judgement will presumably take pleas into account when considering penalties, for instance vital occupational transport or disability.
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That would amount to attaching various unrelated multiple offences to each conviction (which had not been 'tried'). The Law needs to be definite and as precise as possible, the principle of 'appeal' could be jeopardised. But I'm not a lawyer and bow to those qualified.
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mmm a dad refuses to pay child maintenance, he can afford it but refuses to pay.
tack away his licence if he does not pay may prompt him to pay take away his licence he cant work he cant afford to pay, fair point but one he chooses also take away rights to benefits if tis is the road he decides to go down. The child going short has no choice. Not really adding penalties to an existing penalty, just trying to get them to pay what the court orders. I thought it was a good idea, seen it of judge judy macafee2 |
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What if they don't drive? Confiscate their passport?
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Can we limit the variables to judges rather than magistrates? It focuses on the OP more closely.
I’ve known 2 magistrates socially and would rather not be ‘judged’ by either given their private and unguarded opinions! Yes we do but it's not usually for a traffic offence and the sentence can be appealed and quashed. Using a tag could mean he could not be a passenger either without the car being spotted by ANPR and stopped by police. It's not a good idea to combine unrelated offences that were not considered and TIA'd at the original trial.
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lets say you are convicted in court for smashing a shop window you refuse to pay or you get divorced and your wife wins the prized car, you refuse to hand it over. Court suspends your licence until you comply. My train of thought is that your licence is so valuable you will comply. I just think the person in the wrong should be inconvenienced if they choose not to pay. macafee2 |
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I think judges should live in the real world for a while then they might give more appropriate sentences.
What narks me is we pay for separate licences, car, bike, hgv etc and yet you have one licence that gets endorsed!
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Didn't know that Andy. Thought it was all licences. Who said 'the law is an ass'? Whoever it was spelled the last word wrongly.
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