BMW 2.0ltr 160bhp - MGR 2.0ltr 130bhp - whats the difference?

Reaper · 9th January 2010, 15:21

What is the difference between the MGR diesel and the BMW diesel; I know the turbos are different; anything else? What gives them more?

T-Cut · 9th January 2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by Reaper

What is the difference?

BMW.
When they installed this in the 75/ZT, they also decided on principle that it would not develop the power of the parent engine. The camshaft may be different too, I don't know. However, people seem to squeeze plenty of additional horsepower by removing the catalyst and adding gizmos like the MAFAM etc.

TC

T-Cut · 9th January 2010, 17:06

Sorry, dble post.

mikey_32 · 9th January 2010, 17:06

I think it's a slightly different engine, just the same family of engines as the diesel in our cars is 1951cc where as in the BM it's 1995cc

Duotone · 9th January 2010, 17:56

One odd thing about the M47R diesel engine.

The M47R Diesel engine fitted to the Rover 75 was according to the brochures and technical data published up to the year 2001 rated at 1950cc.
[This could be a continuous miss-print throughout the early publications.]

The brochures published after 2001 show the M47R engine as 1951cc. it is this engine that was used throughout production.

The BMW M47D20 engine from which the M47R is derived is also rated at 1951cc.
The M47D20 engine was rated at 134hp. from launch in 1998 until 2001 when it was de-rated to 114hp.

BMW updated the engine in 2001 and its capacity was increased to 1995cc. and its power could be between 114hp. and 161hp. depending on model.

Dave T

3disco · 9th January 2010, 18:06

I also thought that at launch the m47r engine was common rail injection where as the bmw was not,but on later versions became so.

Reaper · 9th January 2010, 21:22

So the extra 50cc gives 30bhp? That's all interesting to know. Thanks!

Keleko · 9th January 2010, 21:38

stupid question but would the BMW unit fit in my ZT?

BigRuss · 10th January 2010, 00:51

Far easier to fit a Synergy and/or re-map with the other mods on a 135ps model with Synergy approx 155bhp and with re-map 171bhp

V/V Turbo's on the Beemers can prove problematic and expensive to repair.

The Mitsubishi turbo's as fitted to our 75 Diesels are generally very reliable.

Russ

Dragrad · 10th January 2010, 01:19

Mitsubushi turbos ? Where does that come in between BMW & Rover tie-up?

Would Mitsubishi parts be cheaper?

What Mitsubishi's were they fitted to......?

Why Mitsubishi ?

Questions, questions....

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mikey_32 Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer 02 club se cdt remapped Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cannock South Staffs Posts: 270 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I think it's a slightly different engine, just the same family of engines as the diesel in our cars is 1951cc where as in the BM it's 1995cc __________________

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Duotone This is my second home 75 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leeds Posts: 8,432 Thanks: 176 Thanked 907 Times in 716 Posts	One odd thing about the M47R diesel engine. The M47R Diesel engine fitted to the Rover 75 was according to the brochures and technical data published up to the year 2001 rated at 1950cc. [This could be a continuous miss-print throughout the early publications.] The brochures published after 2001 show the M47R engine as 1951cc. it is this engine that was used throughout production. The BMW M47D20 engine from which the M47R is derived is also rated at 1951cc. The M47D20 engine was rated at 134hp. from launch in 1998 until 2001 when it was de-rated to 114hp. BMW updated the engine in 2001 and its capacity was increased to 1995cc. and its power could be between 114hp. and 161hp. depending on model. Dave T

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