MG ZTT 190 - Revo remap, worth it?

bazyerma · 13th March 2018, 13:50

Hi

As I got my MG for a bargain, and have already wasted money on a cat back exhaust and induction kit, I asked a local company (Ellon) for a remap, I have been quoted for a remap with a before and after dyno graphs. They think it will on get 12-15 BHP and the same in torque.

Anyone had a Revo remap, did they notice any difference, as its lest than 10% extra?

Regards

Barry

TBennet · 13th March 2018, 14:44

How open to contrasting opinions are you?

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Originally Posted by bazyerma

wasted money

I honestly think these two words sum up the whole notion of modifying a NA for negilable performance gains.

Genuine question: When driving, under what circumstances do you find yourself wishing you had more power? I tend to find the 190 sufficient for most real world situations, so long as I'm in the right gear.

vacuman · 13th March 2018, 15:37

I concur with that.

If I were that desperate for going faster in a big old car I'd buy a faster big old car. It's a worry as it is, what with speed cameras everywhere, that the slightest bit of over-enthusiasm could result in 3 points and a fine.

CivilSteve · 13th March 2018, 20:50

NA engine gains are going to be much less than turbo (petrol/diesel) but part of the process is improving the response/part throttle torque.

I've had owners with 1.4s say the improvement is well worth the money just to make it nicer to drive even if the full throttle numbers aren't always massively bigger

Sheraton · 13th March 2018, 21:41

I'm of the opinion that a remap is about more than "Peak" numbers and top speed

not sure why losing your license would be any more of an issue....lol.... my car can already lose me my license

if you have 5% more power across the rev range - I'd say this is significant - and sharper throttle response is going to make a car feel/perform better under normal driving conditions

Paul.

coab · 14th March 2018, 06:09

Buy some iridium plugs and use Shell V power or similar as I did and the response was better and didnt cost me £200 either. Its a big heavy lump of a car so unless you dont mind shelling out loads of cash for minimal gain its your shout. I had 4 ZT 190s and been down that road.

Mgaz · 14th March 2018, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBennet

How open to contrasting opinions are you?

I honestly think these two words sum up the whole notion of modifying a NA for negilable performance gains.

Genuine question: When driving, under what circumstances do you find yourself wishing you had more power? I tend to find the 190 sufficient for most real world situations, so long as I'm in the right gear.

Filter and exhaust will make a car sound nice though.. even if there is only a small improvment in performance from an naturally aspirated engine.

The sound depends on the engine though.. But I'm sure the V6 sounds nice with these changes. That is afterall, one of the reasons for owning a gas guzzler, isnt it? Its about the 'experiance' as a whole while driving the thing.. which for me and most people will only be on the odd occation. (unless of course you are flush with plenty of spare fuel tokens

)

My 5 cylinder audi quattro for example is full of beautiful sounds.. And it's always going to drink the fuel like a fish, so... it might as well sound nice while doing it? right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_NVCnuGa38

trikey · 14th March 2018, 15:07

Anything over 200hp and your starting to get into piston skirt issues.

Mgaz · 14th March 2018, 21:26

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Originally Posted by trikey

Anything over 200hp and your starting to get into piston skirt issues.

first time i've seen this mentioned..

so if I managed to get 205 ish bhp out of the 190, the engine is going to be damaged?

I'm sure I've seen a few of the ZS180 owners with cams and manifolds and exhaust and breathing mods.. and they were making over 200bhp.

alanaslan · 15th March 2018, 07:34

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Originally Posted by bazyerma

Thanks guys for the replys.

The thing is, I had £1500 burning a hold in my pocket, and with my new job I don't really need a car as my Wife drops me off at work, but I wanted an fast estate, as my Vauxhall adam struggles when I go to B&Q!

So after buying it, selling the spares that came with it. I have about £400 left witch will cover the remap, and the change can be spent on a tank of V power.....Already have iridium plugs when I serviced it last month.

Thanks again, remap it is, I will post the results!

Hi I have been following this with ongoing surprise. If I am following this correctly you are saying that the remap is costing £320. This seems very expensive, it is diesels I drive and has been since the 600 series came out. My towing car has a remap, and is very useful whilst towing. Otherwise I am of the opinion that it is not necessary.
In your petrol engine I see no need for the remap, a lot of money for little gain. I don't see you using the car on the track and the standard power output is more than capable of getting you to speeds that would result in losing your driving licence. Keep your money and put it in an account for car maintenance, it will go a long way for the annual MOT for the next couple of years.
Best wishes and happy driving from an old Rover Driver
Alan

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bazyerma Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 147 Thanks: 117 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	MG ZTT 190 - Revo remap, worth it? Hi As I got my MG for a bargain, and have already wasted money on a cat back exhaust and induction kit, I asked a local company (Ellon) for a remap, I have been quoted for a remap with a before and after dyno graphs. They think it will on get 12-15 BHP and the same in torque. Anyone had a Revo remap, did they notice any difference, as its lest than 10% extra? Regards Barry

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vacuman Gets stuck in MG ZT-T Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: St Albans Posts: 855 Thanks: 69 Thanked 236 Times in 172 Posts	I concur with that. If I were that desperate for going faster in a big old car I'd buy a faster big old car. It's a worry as it is, what with speed cameras everywhere, that the slightest bit of over-enthusiasm could result in 3 points and a fine. __________________ • This vehicle was the 8,186th ZT-T to run off the production line, out of 8,249 • This vehicle was the 1,723rd ZT-T 190 + to be made out of 1,756 • This vehicle was the 149th ZT-T in Mica Blue (Ignition) (code: JGY) to be made out of 160 Mica Blue (Ignition) ZT-Ts

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trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,773 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Anything over 200hp and your starting to get into piston skirt issues. __________________ Lest we forget..

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CivilSteve Avid contributor MG ZT Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Manchester Posts: 237 Thanks: 20 Thanked 108 Times in 56 Posts	NA engine gains are going to be much less than turbo (petrol/diesel) but part of the process is improving the response/part throttle torque. I've had owners with 1.4s say the improvement is well worth the money just to make it nicer to drive even if the full throttle numbers aren't always massively bigger

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Sheraton Posted a thing or two Rover 75 1.8t Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,377 Thanks: 384 Thanked 409 Times in 267 Posts	I'm of the opinion that a remap is about more than "Peak" numbers and top speed not sure why losing your license would be any more of an issue....lol.... my car can already lose me my license if you have 5% more power across the rev range - I'd say this is significant - and sharper throttle response is going to make a car feel/perform better under normal driving conditions Paul.

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coab This is my second home 2007 57 GOLF GTi EDITION 30 DSG Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Newport Shropshire and Coventry. Posts: 5,138 Thanks: 2,424 Thanked 1,452 Times in 852 Posts	Buy some iridium plugs and use Shell V power or similar as I did and the response was better and didnt cost me £200 either. Its a big heavy lump of a car so unless you dont mind shelling out loads of cash for minimal gain its your shout. I had 4 ZT 190s and been down that road.