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[mbev51]

Hi, I'm getting concerned that we are going to pay for coming out of lockdown too early. I think from a purely health point of view we came our at least 3 weeks too early. I fear we will pay for that within a few weeks, those temporary hospitals may yet be needed.

[DRWMGTF]

Originally Posted by mbev51

Hi, I'm getting concerned that we are going to pay for coming out of lockdown too early. I think from a purely health point of view we came our at least 3 weeks too early. I fear we will pay for that within a few weeks, those temporary hospitals may yet be needed.

Let's hope not!

[mbev51]

The scientific advice seems to have been ignored. The economic argument seems to have won. Only time will tell.

[RPWC]

Originally Posted by mbev51

The scientific advice seems to have been ignored. The economic argument seems to have won. Only time will tell.

As per. Wouldn’t expect anything else from this useless lot.

[marinabrian]

Originally Posted by mbev51

The scientific advice seems to have been ignored. The economic argument seems to have won. Only time will tell.

I have to disagree, there is little point in delaying a return to work and if there were ever a time to do this from a medical point of view, then doing it when other seasonal nasties are at their lowest makes perfect sense.

The people most affected financially, are paradoxically the least affected medically by the virus.........not much point in having our children and their children saddled with a bill for decades to come, when they have little or no prospect of securing gainful employment.

As to scientific advise, I feel we have been well and truly led down the garden path in regards to that

[wraymond]

In the main, the scientists whose views and opinions have been adopted are the ones that suited the predetermined narrative.

It's an odd world in the first place when learned boffins, educated at the same or similar traditional temples of wisdom come up with conflicting ideas following their adoption by various commercial enterprises.

The faculties and laboratories they inhabit and in which they conduct their experiments are probably a better identifier of the path they will follow.

Hence the predictable and eternal public argument over methods to resolve issues.

Headline news today; two and a half million cancer treatments have been missed due to the pressure for Covid beds. Not to mention the effect that will have on future presentation of suspected cases.

I may be considered contra-flow here but that seems to me entirely the wrong approach. By far the greater effect is borne by the economy and the knock-on damage to future prospects to huge numbers of innocent people. To suggest a realignment of priorities is viewed as heretical. It does not in fact show any such thing. It is an indication that priorities are not for the reasons put out by governments.

[marinabrian]

Originally Posted by wraymond

In the main, the scientists whose views and opinions have been adopted are the ones that suited the predetermined narrative.

It's an odd world in the first place when learned boffins, educated at the same or similar traditional temples of wisdom come up with conflicting ideas following their adoption by various commercial enterprises.

The faculties and laboratories they inhabit and in which they conduct their experiments are probably a better identifier of the path they will follow.

Hence the predictable and eternal public argument over methods to resolve issues.

Headline news today; two and a half million cancer treatments have been missed due to the pressure for Covid beds. Not to mention the effect that will have on future presentation of suspected cases.

I may be considered contra-flow here but that seems to me entirely the wrong approach. By far the greater effect is borne by the economy and the knock-on damage to future prospects to huge numbers of innocent people. To suggest a realignment of priorities is viewed as heretical. It does not in fact show any such thing. It is an indication that priorities are not for the reasons put out by governments.

That last paragraph encapsulates perfectly the problem we now face.

We have for almost three months had it repeatedly drummed into us that we face a deadly virus that will in all likelihood cause you major damage if you are unfortunate enough to contract it.

As a result of this many people are understandably anxious if not downright petrified, and Chinese whispers abound, everyone knows someone who has had it, the bloke from the corner shop who's aunt's friend from the bridge club who is married to the chap who walks his dog by the canal who has died from coronavirus.

Of course in the main people do not die from this, they die with it, and therein lies the problem.

There is so much misinformation about the virus, obfuscated by those with vested interest abound, but the real tragedy lies in the fact other conditions equally if not more perilous to health are being sidelined in the manufactured panic.

What will bring a sense of proportion to the headline figures, are when widespread antibody testing is introduced, and it is "discovered" that many more people than previously thought have been infected, and contrary to the sensationalist reports, gone on to make a full recovery, or indeed identify people who are totally asymptomatic.

Brian

[DRWMGTF]

Originally Posted by RPWC

As per. Wouldn’t expect anything else from this useless lot.

Would the alternative be any better?

[mileshawk56]

In this situation there is no way to know which is better or worse, could be lots more people die could be many fewer- only hindsight knows the answer. Chris.S.

[steve-45]

Originally Posted by mbev51

The scientific advice seems to have been ignored. The economic argument seems to have won. Only time will tell.

I wonder how many of the “we’ve come out too soon “ brigade have been on full pay or full pensions whilst the rest of the workforce have been furloughed or made redundant?

If lockdown were to continue would they consider that a 20% reduction in state pension payments be reasonable ?