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Old 18th June 2019, 15:00   #31
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So back on topic please gents.

Plastic, the whys and wherefores, the do's and don'ts and the should we or shouldn't we
Okay Simon,

Can all the plastics be replaced? I am thinking about plastic syringes and the plastic collars each needle goes into, to hold the syringe. I can remember at the start of my nursing career drawing a drug up and using a glass syringe to admin meds to a patient, circa 1973. The syringes were not thrown away, they were sterilised, repacked and the packaging was colour coded with an expiry date, to be reused. In those days the issue was not about plastic. The issues would have been around wages, going into the EU, social and economic. We were not environmentally aware in those days. How times have changed.

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Old 18th June 2019, 15:01   #32
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Same here, as a plastics processor for over 30 years the industry is being painted as the bad guy by the worlds media.

Ok chaps - it appears the peeing is done.

Now come back and enlighten us.
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Old 18th June 2019, 15:11   #33
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Reintroducing glass milk bottles will be disastrous over here. Plastic petrol bombs here did not have the same effects during riots. This is a bit tongue in cheek, however, I once read a newspaper article regarding this, and the reduction of issues from molotov cocktails. I have actually noticed it personally, from where a disturbance would've been, there was an obvious absence of broken glass, that would have been present before.

Cardboard cartons is the answer here. (Iknow they have a limited amount of plastic, but they're still recyclable to a certain level)

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Old 18th June 2019, 15:18   #34
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Plastic cartons are undoubtedly very cheap compared to cardboard. Having worked in food packaging for 40 years retailers are still very reluctant to give up the plastic even though where I work we can make fully waterproof and grease resistant cartons of cardboard only - no plastic at all in them. BUT they cost more...
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Old 18th June 2019, 15:33   #35
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Plastic cartons are undoubtedly very cheap compared to cardboard. Having worked in food packaging for 40 years retailers are still very reluctant to give up the plastic even though where I work we can make fully waterproof and grease resistant cartons of cardboard only - no plastic at all in them. BUT they cost more...
That says to me that they think customers aren't ready to pay the extra.
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Old 18th June 2019, 15:40   #36
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Wow.

I mean. wow.

What an edifying post.





I know. Quite sad really.

No worries Dave, feel free to continue. I'm not going to get into a petty who has the biggest competition.
Ok - so a you think it acceptable to state you find it surprising that I watch a programme based upon your prejudice

And then when the resident(s) tweedle dum and tweedle dummer do their normal playground ganging up - you join in.

I’m so glad you found my post edifying....
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Probably correct in that comment. Also I think the retailers are very reluctant to do something like that on their own through fear that the competition will not follow suit and leave them exposed. Maybe the basic reality is that we can't eliminate plastics or recycle them on the cheap and that is a cost that maybe we all need to share at some point.
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Ok - so a you think it acceptable to state you find it surprising that I watch a programme based upon your prejudice

And then when the resident(s) tweedle dum and tweedle dummer do their normal playground ganging up - you join in.

I’m so glad you found my post edifying....
Grow up for goodness sake Mr Last Word
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Probably correct in that comment. Also I think the retailers are very reluctant to do something like that on their own through fear that the competition will not follow suit and leave them exposed. Maybe the basic reality is that we can't eliminate plastics or recycle them on the cheap and that is a cost that maybe we all need to share at some point.

I guess it needs lots of us to buy those goods, the established players will see the shift. The government has a part to play as well.
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That says to me that they think customers aren't ready to pay the extra.
But if we did as Gatekeeper has said they have done in Kenya and introduced a ban on single use plastic bags - why cannot we introduce a similar ban for plastic packaging at the point of sale?

My point tho, is would we simply be swapping one issue for another?

If we use paper or cardboard- would obtaining the wood pulp have a knock on effect? Would the new paper mills be environmentally friendly? Because the old ones certainly were not.
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