Starmer and Rayner

mbev51 · 9th May 2022, 15:36

I see the duo have taken a calculated risk and put their jobs on the line. Good for them and good for the labour party. In some ways a change in leadership could reinvigorate the party. Its certainly hugely different stance compared to the Tory Party. Sounds as if more fines are immenent for no10.

Borg Warner · 9th May 2022, 16:30

Another unnecessary diversion. Worryingly Burnham's name has already been mentioned:

https://www.braintreeandwithamtimes....-keir-starmer/

See the beeb have a story on it:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61383091

Not surprisingly no HYS on it though. Now if it had been a certain other leader????

Saga Lout · 10th May 2022, 07:53

Lisa Nandy resigned a couple of weeks ago, it's no secret she'd like the job so watch this space. I personally wouldn't vote Labour but I think it's time for the media to move on and stop trying to destroy people, it seems that any politician that dared to have a beer at work is somehow evil. If that visit was legitimate then it's no-one's business what he could and couldn't eat and drink, there's too many people with a holier than thou attitude just now and they need to move on.

Borg Warner · 10th May 2022, 08:26

^^^^^^

Wot 'e says.

another_clean_sheet · 10th May 2022, 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbev51

I see the duo have taken a calculated risk and put their jobs on the line. Good for them and good for the labour party. In some ways a change in leadership could reinvigorate the party. Its certainly hugely different stance compared to the Tory Party. Sounds as if more fines are immenent for no10.

Read his statement carefully. He will resign only if he gets fined and Durham police are not retrospectively issuing Covid fines. A bit of smoke and mirrors.

wraymond · 10th May 2022, 09:00

Added to which of course, Durham is not necessarily noted for its even handedness when it comes to in-depth rigorous investigation of every individual. Unfortunately.
I sympathise with the electorate there.

wraymond · 11th May 2022, 16:10

Having said that, Starmer has now done a crafty move by letting all and sundry know, including police forces everywhere, that if he is fined he will resign.

So, a constituency susceptible to change, in a volatile climate with poll conscious officialdom of many of its departments, is made aware of the upheaval a guilty verdict would provoke.

Now that's a lawyer doing what they do best. Deflection with the right result in mind. Honourable? Not from where I'm sitting.

(I'm not biased either. Some of my much earlier experiences: Union branch secretary, chairman, conference delegate, in-house article writer.) Now there's a shock!

mileshawk56 · 11th May 2022, 17:27

"Shifty" Starmer I once heard him so described. Chris S.

torque2me · 11th May 2022, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by mileshawk56

"Shifty" Starmer I once heard him so described. Chris S.

Hmmm...also known as a CPS failure. Legal profession, after the police are third in line of criminal fraternity (hard core criminals, police then legal)

Kev

Borg Warner · 11th May 2022, 18:42

Hoped for a lot more from the man to be fair. Sadly he seems to live up to his nick name of Cap'n Hindsight.

Or should that simply be Cprl Hindsight?

9th May 2022, 15:36	#1
mbev51 Banned Removed Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Removed Posts: 1,343 Thanks: 171 Thanked 315 Times in 223 Posts	Starmer and Rayner I see the duo have taken a calculated risk and put their jobs on the line. Good for them and good for the labour party. In some ways a change in leadership could reinvigorate the party. Its certainly hugely different stance compared to the Tory Party. Sounds as if more fines are immenent for no10.

10th May 2022, 07:53	#3
Saga Lout This is my second home MG ZT and Rover 75, Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wigan Posts: 3,276 Thanks: 2,556 Thanked 2,685 Times in 1,037 Posts	Just maybe. Lisa Nandy resigned a couple of weeks ago, it's no secret she'd like the job so watch this space. I personally wouldn't vote Labour but I think it's time for the media to move on and stop trying to destroy people, it seems that any politician that dared to have a beer at work is somehow evil. If that visit was legitimate then it's no-one's business what he could and couldn't eat and drink, there's too many people with a holier than thou attitude just now and they need to move on.

10th May 2022, 09:00	#6
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,195 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	Added to which of course, Durham is not necessarily noted for its even handedness when it comes to in-depth rigorous investigation of *every* individual. Unfortunately. I sympathise with the electorate there. __________________ member no. 235

11th May 2022, 16:10	#7
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,195 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	Having said that, Starmer has now done a crafty move by letting all and sundry know, including police forces everywhere, that if he is fined he will resign. So, a constituency susceptible to change, in a volatile climate with poll conscious officialdom of many of its departments, is made aware of the upheaval a guilty verdict would provoke. Now that's a lawyer doing what they do best. Deflection with the right result in mind. Honourable? Not from where I'm sitting. (I'm not biased either. Some of my much earlier experiences: Union branch secretary, chairman, conference delegate, in-house article writer.) Now there's a shock! __________________ member no. 235

9th May 2022, 16:30	#2
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	Another unnecessary diversion. Worryingly Burnham's name has already been mentioned: https://www.braintreeandwithamtimes....-keir-starmer/ See the beeb have a story on it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61383091 Not surprisingly no HYS on it though. Now if it had been a certain other leader????

10th May 2022, 08:26	#4
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	^^^^^^ Wot 'e says.

11th May 2022, 17:27	#8
mileshawk56 Posted a thing or two MGZT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 1,738 Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts	"Shifty" Starmer I once heard him so described. Chris S.

11th May 2022, 18:42	#10
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	Hoped for a lot more from the man to be fair. Sadly he seems to live up to his nick name of Cap'n Hindsight. Or should that simply be Cprl Hindsight?