Auto Boot Lift Mod - Page 121

Dragrad · 15th January 2017, 22:28

Threads merged as they are related.

tobi-as · 16th January 2017, 04:41

Yes, I mean the springs set.
Have an offer over about PN receive : Drool4:
Thanks

DaPol · 17th January 2017, 18:20

Does anybody know what the specs were for the springs for this kit in terms of inner diameter/spring diameter/spring twist pitch/spring loading rate?

I'm thinking that this comes up often enough that it may be worth seeing if there's anything generic on the market that would be "close enough" to do a bitsa kit on an ad-hoc basis.

tobi-as · 17th January 2017, 18:37

Precisely, with us in the 75/ZT circle, there is interest!!

suzublu · 17th January 2017, 18:52

Took mine off as they warped the wing due to stress, so be careful

I did look into getting adjustable gas struts to replace the oem ones & found a company that makes them to fit, they just needed the weight of the boot lid

But I got bored & never bothered

Might be a line to pursue for someone

T-Cut · 18th January 2017, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzublu

Took mine off as they warped the wing due to stress, so be careful. I did look into getting adjustable gas struts to replace the oem ones

Several members have reported problems after fitting the lifting springs. It seems that the mouning brackets attached to the body may not be man enough, or there's more leverage at the mounting points than the body shell/lid is designed to take. Whatever the cause, there are cases of water leakage and warping of the boot lid. It seems to me that replacing the springs with any other device with the power to lift the lid will create exactly the same problems for cars that are prone. I've had the kit fitted right from the start and have not so far had any issues. However it is something I'm now conscious of and watching out for.

TC

stocktake · 18th January 2017, 10:11

I too have had this mod from the start, when Suzublu reported his problem I removed and resealed the hinge bolts as a precaution, never had any problems.

Supervinnie40 · 18th April 2017, 06:51

Don't feel this needs a new topic as this one already exists.

I have had this mod for several years. I think i was in one of the first batches at the time?
Anyway, I noticed that the boot wouldn't come up anymore. It would open, and then raise a few cm but not open up completely.

I noticed how the part of the hinge attached to the body of the car slowly bends. This is due to the springs being compressed when the lid is closed. All the time that the lid is closed, the springs push against the complete hinge setup. Eventually, this slowly bends the part where the strut is connected to the hinge. If this gets bend to far, the lid won't open up anymore.

This can be fixed without damaging anything I believe. I did it in this way:
- Put a strong beam in the booth.
- Wrap a piece of electrical wire around the hinges, and try to make it as tight as possible
- Put a jack on top of the beam in the booth
- Put a piece of wood between the jack and the wire (try to keep it in the center)
- When you make the jack go up, it will push against the wire. If this is raised, it will pull the parts of the hinges inwards. Bending them back.

*please try it out a few times without any pressure so you understand what is happening and what you need to do. Also do not try this is you are not confident on doing this. You can hurt yourself if something goes wrong, and it could even damage the car. So please think this through before you do it.
It worked for me, but that is not a guarantee.

More so, I have found that the head of the strut that is connected to the hinge on the body, wears a fair bit. If that would snap off due to pressure, it would seriously damage the hinge and the surrounding area.

So I eventually decided to order new struts, and remove the ones with the springs.
I like the mod, it is really great. But not worth the risk I believe.

mixtuurorgel · 29th June 2017, 11:16

Is it still possible to order such a Auto Boot Lift Mod. ?
Htis thread has 122 pages, i did'nt read them all

suzublu · 29th June 2017, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixtuurorgel

Is it still possible to order such a Auto Boot Lift Mod. ?
Htis thread has 122 pages, i did'nt read them all

I don't think they're available any more

It's been a couple of years now, I took mine off anyway as they were causing damage to the hinges

15th January 2017, 22:28	#1201
Dragrad This is my second home *None DROWNED** Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cardigan Posts: 33,339 Thanks: 1,257 Thanked 1,664 Times in 1,081 Posts	Threads merged as they are related. __________________ Andrew Ich Dien Problem solving is... lateral thinking SEARCH FIRST ...ASK LATER...

16th January 2017, 04:41	#1202
tobi-as Regular poster Rover75, Saloon Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cologne / Germany Posts: 46 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Yes, I mean the springs set. Have an offer over about PN receive : Drool4: Thanks __________________ www.cologne-rovers75.de.tl Last edited by Dragrad; 19th January 2017 at 00:01.. Reason: No permission to advertise other links

17th January 2017, 18:37	#1204
tobi-as Regular poster Rover75, Saloon Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cologne / Germany Posts: 46 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Precisely, with us in the 75/ZT circle, there is interest!! __________________ www.cologne-rovers75.de.tl

18th January 2017, 10:11	#1207
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,591 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	I too have had this mod from the start, when Suzublu reported his problem I removed and resealed the hinge bolts as a precaution, never had any problems. __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

18th April 2017, 06:51	#1208
Supervinnie40 I really should get out more....... Rover 75 1.8 Club Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Tilburg (Netherland) Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 572 Thanked 336 Times in 247 Posts	Don't feel this needs a new topic as this one already exists. I have had this mod for several years. I think i was in one of the first batches at the time? Anyway, I noticed that the boot wouldn't come up anymore. It would open, and then raise a few cm but not open up completely. I noticed how the part of the hinge attached to the body of the car slowly bends. This is due to the springs being compressed when the lid is closed. All the time that the lid is closed, the springs push against the complete hinge setup. Eventually, this slowly bends the part where the strut is connected to the hinge. If this gets bend to far, the lid won't open up anymore. This can be fixed without damaging anything I believe. I did it in this way: - Put a strong beam in the booth. - Wrap a piece of electrical wire around the hinges, and try to make it as tight as possible - Put a jack on top of the beam in the booth - Put a piece of wood between the jack and the wire (try to keep it in the center) - When you make the jack go up, it will push against the wire. If this is raised, it will pull the parts of the hinges inwards. Bending them back. *please try it out a few times without any pressure so you understand what is happening and what you need to do. Also do not try this is you are not confident on doing this. You can hurt yourself if something goes wrong, and it could even damage the car. So please think this through before you do it. It worked for me, but that is not a guarantee. More so, I have found that the head of the strut that is connected to the hinge on the body, wears a fair bit. If that would snap off due to pressure, it would seriously damage the hinge and the surrounding area. So I eventually decided to order new struts, and remove the ones with the springs. I like the mod, it is really great. But not worth the risk I believe. __________________ Proud owner of the Dutch "Golden 75". A much loved Gold White Metallic Rover 75 1.8 na from 2000.

17th January 2017, 18:20	#1203
DaPol Loves to post 75 CDTi Saloon Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bolton Posts: 302 Thanks: 47 Thanked 77 Times in 49 Posts	Does anybody know what the specs were for the springs for this kit in terms of inner diameter/spring diameter/spring twist pitch/spring loading rate? I'm thinking that this comes up often enough that it may be worth seeing if there's anything generic on the market that would be "close enough" to do a bitsa kit on an ad-hoc basis.

17th January 2017, 18:52	#1205
suzublu This is my second home rover 75 1.8 vvc club se wedgwood blue Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seaton Carew Posts: 26,921 Thanks: 65 Thanked 7,142 Times in 4,642 Posts	Took mine off as they warped the wing due to stress, so be careful I did look into getting adjustable gas struts to replace the oem ones & found a company that makes them to fit, they just needed the weight of the boot lid But I got bored & never bothered Might be a line to pursue for someone

29th June 2017, 11:16	#1209
mixtuurorgel Regular poster Rover 75, 100th anniversery Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deinum(the Netherlands) Posts: 47 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is it still possible to order such a Auto Boot Lift Mod. ? Htis thread has 122 pages, i did'nt read them all