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Old 21st May 2020, 14:47   #11
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So I’ve eventually had the car in the garage today.

They’ve had a good look and ‘think’ it’s the slave cylinder. They said they have replaced the slave on these previously and on both occasions it didn’t work!

Anyway, they’ve quoted for a slave, master and clutch. To my mind it isn’t worth getting the work done as it’s close to the value of the car. They’ve quoted over 1k for the work which seems very steep to me. Any thoughts?

It’s a decent car, body is good, 155k, usual driver seat wear but overall it’s a good car but I simply can’t justify spending anywhere near that on it.

A bit stuck now as can’t really get the car elsewhere nor do I have the time.

Very frustrating!

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Old 21st May 2020, 21:04   #12
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very very expensive, I think going rate has been about £650 but
if AA many said link had snapped they are a long way off. How do they get to the slave being at fault? Going only on your post I don't think they know what is wrong. I think I would find someone else to use
What link is AA man referring to? I thought the one from clutch pedal to master but that's not a gearbox off job. You said on the 11th you would have a look and post what you found, did you look?

I think you would be well advised to follow the advise given already and do a few simple checks, good luck

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Old 22nd May 2020, 08:34   #13
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Thanks for the message.

I took some pictures last week but was unable to upload. I’ll try from my laptop later today and see if that helps.

From what I gather they found some fluid where slave would be. It was explained to me second hand though rather than by the mechanic so I’m going in to pick the car up this afternoon and once I do I’ll get the full version from the mechanic.

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Old 23rd May 2020, 13:29   #14
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So I've been down and picked the car up. The mechanic explained that with the sealed unit there is fluid visible at both ends. With respect to the clutch he said it was best practice to replace the clutch as the gearbox would have to come out.

Really it needs someone with some experience of these cars to have a look at it and take it from there.

Does anyone know of anyone in the North West that might be able to take a look?

I've tried again to upload some images without success.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 19:54   #15
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David, I have read through the symptoms you experienced, and although I don't have the eyes on the job so to speak, this is what I suspect has happened.

The quick coupling attaching the pipework from the master cylinder to the slave, has become detached, this results in a solid pedal due to the fluid being unable to exit the master cylinder, and when you press the pedal really hard, the clevis loop at the end of the master cylinder piston breaks.

Now the hydraulic coupling is located directly above the gearbox, and if the coupling is partially detached when the pedal is pressed, then fluid will escape.

What you need to check is whether the clutch master cylinder pushrod is still connected to the clutch pedal, and the clevis loop not broken.

The coupling looks like this..........



The part which I suspect that is broken on the master cylinder, is the thing with the paper tag tied on in this picture.......



Finally this picture shows the position of the clutch master cylinder in relation to the clutch pedal..........



And finally here is a gearbox, to give an idea of where the coupling is located inside the engine bay......



All of these things can be checked with relative ease, and don't require specialist knowledge, and should be discounted before resorting to gearbox removal.

Best of luck

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Old 23rd June 2020, 21:14   #16
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Hi All,

Just thought I’d put a last post/update in the thread to bring anyone who’s interested up to speed.

The car did need a new master and slave cylinder so thanks for everyone’s help in diagnosing that. A few other jobs have been done on the car including a new selector box. I ordered a new clutch but having had the gearbox out and the existing clutch inspected, it was not only in very good order but also a higher quality clutch than the one I ordered.

So, thanks to Brian for sending out the new quick link which worked a great and thanks to Mat at dmgrs for supplying all the new parts.

The biggest thanks though has to go to LeeT who has spent hours upon hours and given up a lot of his time on the car which as he’ll tell you, it put up a real fight at times. I don’t think his back will ever be the same after that! Thanks again Lee, really appreciated your time and patience over the last few weeks.

Thanks again and keep an eye on the classifieds!

Dave
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