Carbon Monoxide - The Silent Killer

planenut · 31st October 2023, 19:14

Having seen a horrific video recently in which a lady's health gradually deteriorated during ten years, and she was misdiagnosed by several doctors, I thought this worth raising. Heating engineers found that her boiler had been wrongly installed.

I do realize that we are all aware of Carbon Monoxide, but also, we have all probably heard of instances when persons have passed away due to being affected by it.

Again, I am raising this matter with all my family and friends to ensure they fit and or test their detectors, stay safe. (Just my thought)

VVC-Geeza · 31st October 2023, 19:27

Detectors are cheap enough to have one in every room with a gas appliance.Well worth the investment.

stevestrat · 31st October 2023, 19:47

Years ago when I was still a kid we moved into a new house, my mother started getting really bad headaches. My father and I noticed it seemed to coincide with using the gas fire in the lounge

My folks got someone in to check the fire and it was discovered the flue from the gas fire wasn't connected to the tube that ran up the chimney, there was a section missing. The CO was affecting her because she was in the house much more than either my father (working) or me (school).

stocktake · 1st November 2023, 18:16

Many of the problems with ventilation for gas appliances come from other trades. An example:
A gas cooker fitted in a kitchen that needs no permanent ventilation. The kitchen has an openable window that leads direct to outside as most do. Gas cooker installation conforms to installation instructions,
Builder comes along and builds a conservatory on the end of the building next to the kitchen, kitchen window now opens into conservatory. Cooker is now incorrectly fitted !!!

roverbarmy · 1st November 2023, 19:28

Since changing our gas cooker for an electric induction hob and electric cooker, our condensation levels are vastly lower and our bills are lower too. Much more efficient cooking, cleaner cooker and hob and a happy spouse!

(With no carbon monoxide in the kitchen!)

mileshawk56 · 2nd November 2023, 09:45

Gas boilers and other gas appliances need very careful installation regards flues and ventilation as stated by others. ch/boilers in roof spaces are a particular hazard especially when replacements installed and the flues are very often not "plug and play" You cant see whats been/not been done by the installer, bit like repairs to roofs, you take it trust, well you cant. Chris.S.

SCP440 · 2nd November 2023, 20:21

We have one of these new fangled smart meters, we also have a dual fuel cooker. One oven is gas and the other electric. We have noticed it costs twice as much to cook our dinner with electric than with gas.
Now I know we need to save the planet and all that but if we all going to go electric we are all going to be a lot poorer or is this the plan?
As far as CO I was told years ago you should have a CO detector in every room that there is a gas appliance and also one outside your bedroom door and also test them every few months. We also replace the batteries annually on all detectors.

roverbarmy · 2nd November 2023, 21:07

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Originally Posted by SCP440

We have one of these new fangled smart meters, we also have a dual fuel cooker. One oven is gas and the other electric. We have noticed it costs twice as much to cook our dinner with electric than with gas.
Now I know we need to save the planet and all that but if we all going to go electric we are all going to be a lot poorer or is this the plan?
As far as CO I was told years ago you should have a CO detector in every room that there is a gas appliance and also one outside your bedroom door and also test them every few months. We also replace the batteries annually on all detectors.

Our new "A" rated electric cooker is much quicker than the old gas one and our annual bills dropped after the installation.

planenut · 3rd November 2023, 06:40

It is very important to regularly test detectors and not assume that the battery is reliable, and that applies to any detector regardless of it's function.

31st October 2023, 19:14	#1
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	Carbon Monoxide - The Silent Killer Having seen a horrific video recently in which a lady's health gradually deteriorated during ten years, and she was misdiagnosed by several doctors, I thought this worth raising. Heating engineers found that her boiler had been wrongly installed. I do realize that we are all aware of Carbon Monoxide, but also, we have all probably heard of instances when persons have passed away due to being affected by it. Again, I am raising this matter with all my family and friends to ensure they fit and or test their detectors, stay safe. (Just my thought)

31st October 2023, 19:27	#2
VVC-Geeza This is my second home 2005 Connoisseur SE 1.8 Turbo,2004 45 1.8 Connoisseur and my beloved 1998 VVC Coupe. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Derby. Posts: 8,792 Thanks: 2,022 Thanked 1,016 Times in 739 Posts	Detectors are cheap enough to have one in every room with a gas appliance.Well worth the investment. __________________

31st October 2023, 19:47	#3
stevestrat This is my second home ZT260 #243 (resting) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prestonpans Posts: 22,546 Thanks: 650 Thanked 4,624 Times in 3,358 Posts	Years ago when I was still a kid we moved into a new house, my mother started getting really bad headaches. My father and I noticed it seemed to coincide with using the gas fire in the lounge My folks got someone in to check the fire and it was discovered the flue from the gas fire wasn't connected to the tube that ran up the chimney, there was a section missing. The CO was affecting her because she was in the house much more than either my father (working) or me (school). __________________ Steve T4 Location Map

1st November 2023, 18:16	#4
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,594 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	Many of the problems with ventilation for gas appliances come from other trades. An example: A gas cooker fitted in a kitchen that needs no permanent ventilation. The kitchen has an openable window that leads direct to outside as most do. Gas cooker installation conforms to installation instructions, Builder comes along and builds a conservatory on the end of the building next to the kitchen, kitchen window now opens into conservatory. Cooker is now incorrectly fitted !!! __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

1st November 2023, 19:28	#5
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,060 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Since changing our gas cooker for an electric induction hob and electric cooker, our condensation levels are vastly lower and our bills are lower too. Much more efficient cooking, cleaner cooker and hob and a happy spouse!(With no carbon monoxide in the kitchen!) __________________ Oil in my veins!

2nd November 2023, 09:45	#6
mileshawk56 Posted a thing or two MGZT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 1,738 Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts	Gas boilers and other gas appliances need very careful installation regards flues and ventilation as stated by others. ch/boilers in roof spaces are a particular hazard especially when replacements installed and the flues are very often not "plug and play" You cant see whats been/not been done by the installer, bit like repairs to roofs, you take it trust, well you cant. Chris.S.

2nd November 2023, 20:21	#7
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,507 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	We have one of these new fangled smart meters, we also have a dual fuel cooker. One oven is gas and the other electric. We have noticed it costs twice as much to cook our dinner with electric than with gas. Now I know we need to save the planet and all that but if we all going to go electric we are all going to be a lot poorer or is this the plan? As far as CO I was told years ago you should have a CO detector in every room that there is a gas appliance and also one outside your bedroom door and also test them every few months. We also replace the batteries annually on all detectors.

3rd November 2023, 06:40	#9
planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	It is very important to regularly test detectors and not assume that the battery is reliable, and that applies to any detector regardless of it's function.