Headlights Blown / Water in Footwell (Car Wash)

ChrisNHH · 14th December 2014, 22:00

For fear of repeating something that often gets posted by a few who don't search the forum, I have a feeling this is different, so I thought it would be an idea to post it.

The last two times I went to the car wash, there was water in the driver's side footwell, in our RHD ZT. After the second visit, the headlights stopped working on normal beam. I have sidelights and full beam; the result of a quick check on my own, so it might only be one side. Having checked the fuses, I moved on and removed the right bulb, to find it had disintegrated. I have not checked the left side yet.

There is no sign of water when it rains and there is no sunroof. I'll obviously continue to go through the various posts I have found so far, but suggestions where this combination has been posted would be helpful, if it exists.

Note: the windscreen scuttle panel/outer grille is broken at both ends and about 5cm is missing at one end. This was thanks to a garage we used to use and who refuse to replace it. We have owned the car for 2 years and have changed headlight bulbs 4 times. Not Xenon.

Cheers.

ROBBIE G · 14th December 2014, 22:02

Plenuim check would be my first port of call

Avulon · 14th December 2014, 22:18

When you say the bulb 'disintegrated' do you mean the whole bulb (the glass envelope) or just the bulb internals? I agree that you should check the plenum as a matter of urgency if not already done.

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...t=plenum+check

ChrisNHH · 15th December 2014, 03:59

I'll have a look, but I had expected to have this problem when it rains as well. It was dark last night, so it was difficult. As the car wash uses water under pressure, I was beginning to think of some other problem. The bulb was in pieces, as I found it.

Kennyeth · 15th December 2014, 09:12

You could possibly get a used scuttle panel from one of the dealers on here.
Good luck and as said...plenum check.
Ken.

ChrisNHH · 15th December 2014, 13:11

The results are in :-)

First things first. There was of course a lot of water in the famous place, but it appears as if the replacement windscreen was not fitted correctly. We let the water out from beneath and did not remove the scuttle. A total of four bulbs had gone, one of which had been replaced two weeks ago. If the screen is still under guarantee, is not clear, but I shall be looking into it. Note: the screen had to be replaced, after the mirror fell off and took a chunk of glass with it.

Mobile phone images.

ChrisNHH · 15th December 2014, 13:24

The reason why the bumper had to be removed, was because there were complications, getting to the bulbs. The clips holding the bulbs were bent and jammed.

14th December 2014, 22:00	#1
ChrisNHH Avid contributor MG ZT135 CDTi RHD BLACK, 3x ROVER 75 CDTi Conni SE, + SD1 VITESSE BLACK Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hamburg, originally Worthing/Brighton Posts: 109 Thanks: 17 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Headlights Blown / Water in Footwell (Car Wash) For fear of repeating something that often gets posted by a few who don't search the forum, I have a feeling this is different, so I thought it would be an idea to post it. The last two times I went to the car wash, there was water in the driver's side footwell, in our RHD ZT. After the second visit, the headlights stopped working on normal beam. I have sidelights and full beam; the result of a quick check on my own, so it might only be one side. Having checked the fuses, I moved on and removed the right bulb, to find it had disintegrated. I have not checked the left side yet. There is no sign of water when it rains and there is no sunroof. I'll obviously continue to go through the various posts I have found so far, but suggestions where this combination has been posted would be helpful, if it exists. Note: the windscreen scuttle panel/outer grille is broken at both ends and about 5cm is missing at one end. This was thanks to a garage we used to use and who refuse to replace it. We have owned the car for 2 years and have changed headlight bulbs 4 times. Not Xenon. Cheers. __________________ Black 1983 LHD Rover SD1 Vitesse. Firefrost CDTi, Starlight CDTi, Monogram Chatsworth 75 Tourer CDTi - RHD, facelift, 2004. Hamburg, Germany. Last edited by ChrisNHH; 14th December 2014 at 22:10..

14th December 2014, 22:02	#2
ROBBIE G Posted a thing or two 75 saloon 1.8 classic Join Date: May 2011 Location: WOLVERHAMPTON Posts: 1,142 Thanks: 18 Thanked 106 Times in 77 Posts	Plenuim check would be my first port of call __________________ [SIGPIC]http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ine=1415735858[/SIGPIC]

14th December 2014, 22:18	#3
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	When you say the bulb 'disintegrated' do you mean the whole bulb (the glass envelope) or just the bulb internals? I agree that you should check the plenum as a matter of urgency if not already done. http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...t=plenum+check __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

15th December 2014, 03:59	#4
ChrisNHH Avid contributor MG ZT135 CDTi RHD BLACK, 3x ROVER 75 CDTi Conni SE, + SD1 VITESSE BLACK Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hamburg, originally Worthing/Brighton Posts: 109 Thanks: 17 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Headlights Blown / Water in Footwell (Car Wash) I'll have a look, but I had expected to have this problem when it rains as well. It was dark last night, so it was difficult. As the car wash uses water under pressure, I was beginning to think of some other problem. The bulb was in pieces, as I found it. __________________ Black 1983 LHD Rover SD1 Vitesse. Firefrost CDTi, Starlight CDTi, Monogram Chatsworth 75 Tourer CDTi - RHD, facelift, 2004. Hamburg, Germany.

15th December 2014, 13:11	#6
ChrisNHH Avid contributor MG ZT135 CDTi RHD BLACK, 3x ROVER 75 CDTi Conni SE, + SD1 VITESSE BLACK Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hamburg, originally Worthing/Brighton Posts: 109 Thanks: 17 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Headlights Blown / Water in Footwell (Car Wash) The results are in :-) First things first. There was of course a lot of water in the famous place, but it appears as if the replacement windscreen was not fitted correctly. We let the water out from beneath and did not remove the scuttle. A total of four bulbs had gone, one of which had been replaced two weeks ago. If the screen is still under guarantee, is not clear, but I shall be looking into it. Note: the screen had to be replaced, after the mirror fell off and took a chunk of glass with it. Mobile phone images. __________________ Black 1983 LHD Rover SD1 Vitesse. Firefrost CDTi, Starlight CDTi, Monogram Chatsworth 75 Tourer CDTi - RHD, facelift, 2004. Hamburg, Germany. Last edited by ChrisNHH; 15th December 2014 at 13:13.. Reason: Additions

15th December 2014, 09:12	#5
Kennyeth This is my second home No more Rover Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire. Posts: 5,881 Thanks: 1,625 Thanked 1,308 Times in 998 Posts	You could possibly get a used scuttle panel from one of the dealers on here. Good luck and as said...plenum check. Ken.

15th December 2014, 13:24	#7
ChrisNHH Avid contributor MG ZT135 CDTi RHD BLACK, 3x ROVER 75 CDTi Conni SE, + SD1 VITESSE BLACK Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hamburg, originally Worthing/Brighton Posts: 109 Thanks: 17 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The reason why the bumper had to be removed, was because there were complications, getting to the bulbs. The clips holding the bulbs were bent and jammed. __________________ Black 1983 LHD Rover SD1 Vitesse. Firefrost CDTi, Starlight CDTi, Monogram Chatsworth 75 Tourer CDTi - RHD, facelift, 2004. Hamburg, Germany.