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25th May 2016, 13:42 | #41 | |
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Pay in £361m/week. Rebate £85m/week Treasury £88m/week Private sector money £27m/week Cost £161m To put this into context UK defence costs are some £851m/week, NHS and pensions are an awful lot more, sorry but I missed the figures on these – typing as it was on. |
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25th May 2016, 13:45 | #42 | |
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25th May 2016, 15:23 | #43 | |
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We can 'do it alone', we always did until the Common Market. It offered us advantages back then, when we joined - now it doesn't, we just have a prospect to look forward to of supporting many much worse economies since the EU began its power crazed attempt to rule the entire world. We didn't elect them, we have almost no real power in the EU, yet we are the strongest nation in the EU. We are one of the smallest, but massively over populated - a country where all of the displaced people head for consuming our resources. The generous man of Europe, with few rules in place to dissuade them. The EU needs us, much more than we need them.
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25th May 2016, 15:33 | #44 | |
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Even today, a new ‘report’ from the Institute of Fiscal Studies has burst in with massive backing for Cameron’s position. Heralded as the only really independent organ, when you look closer all isn’t what it seems. All their earlier predictions were hopelessly wrong in essence, from the EMF to Greece they were wide of the mark. They are independent as far as being a study and research group, university based, and funded by Europe! See below opinions from both Left and Right commentators – direct quotes lifted from Wiki – to give a balanced view: The Institute for Fiscal Studies frequently speaks out on politically important issues and has at different times been criticised from both sides of the political spectrum. In October 2010, the leader of the Lib Dems accused the IFS of using methods that were "distorted and a complete nonsense" after it challenged government claims that tax and benefit reforms in the June 2010 Budget were "progressive”. Left-wing think tank Tax Research UK stated in a report that the "Institute for Fiscal Studies is a body that persistently recommends tax increases that benefit the wealthiest in society at cost to those who make their living from work and the poorest in society". On another occasion, the right-leaning magazine The Spectator published a leader stating that Institutes funded by research grants (which means, usually, tax money) will always argue for more expensive meddling by the state and that the Institute for Fiscal Studies was "the most striking example" of this. It’s true the Leave campaign hasn’t given any future view of how the economy will fare, because neither they nor anybody else can! But, every budget that Osborne has presided over has had to be redrawn shortly after implementation, some in a matter of weeks. It is all guesswork. I suspect voting will to a large extent be for who the public feel is the most trustworthy and believable. In any case, as things stand, whatever the result there will be no immediate change of government. So no civil unrest, plagues, or insurrection!
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25th May 2016, 17:18 | #46 |
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Depends where you live whether or not you get the official government leaflet. Only 9 million government leaflets when there's a lot more households. Local Tory activist told me but I cannot confirm, if you live in a "safe" Tory seat you won't get a leaflet because they believe you are guaranteed to vote to stay in.
Whatever the case, I'm not happy that my tax payments are being used to promote a biased view from a PM who promised a balanced referendum. |
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25th May 2016, 17:40 | #48 | |
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25th May 2016, 17:49 | #49 |
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We joined in the 70's a 'Common market' and gradually over the years this has morphed into the EU, none of which was voted for in that referendum, it has often been said that the long term goal is an ever closer union, political and financial and that's a fact, that is what the eurocrats are going for, a slow creeping takeover of decision making!
Parliament will remain but end up as a rubber stamp for EU 'Directives' I for one do not believe one word about the further guarantees and opt outs promised if we remain, they will find a way round all the promises and opt outs when they feel the need, the EU is a millstone around our necks. Who will be next to be wheeled out from the list of world leaders to tell us how to vote eh! |
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How it is viewed from across the pond:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...87d_story.html If you miss the links: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...html?tid=a_inl https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ans/?tid=a_inl Last edited by Borg Warner; 25th May 2016 at 18:08.. |
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