Tyre Guru Question??? - Page 2

rab60bit · 7th April 2022, 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by operamagorum

I don't normally join in posts like this, but I have used all sorts of tyres over the years (I'm quite old)
I've bought tyres that cost the earth (Sierra Cosworth) and tyres that didn't (Morris Minor)
I've now had my 75 - 52 Tourer Diesel 160 - for 7 years. I have changed the tyres twice in that period.
My requirements are noise volume and grip in the wet.
When I researched this (extensively) I discovered that certain budget tyres beat branded tyres by a mile. The last time I took my car in for a tyre change it was driven by unusual wear. Nothing that would fail an MOT, but tracking was way out.
I last changed my tyres abot 7k ago and they are still almost perfect.
No matter how hard I drive my car I have full confidence in tyre grip. I don't know by how much a 190 out performs a Diesel 160 but, I would guess not enough to worry about tyres.
I genuinely cannot see the need to shod a car with tyres that almost meet the value of the car, when the car does not perform at that level.
I have bought my tyres via Asda tyres and thoroughly recommend.
Apologies for droning on
Geoff

...and the winning brand was???

Vantheman · 7th April 2022, 18:25

The big names have factories all over the world. If you chose a brand that manufactures in the UK, then you won't necessarily get a UK made tyre because not all sizes are made at all factories. The last Goodyears I bought were made in China, as are the Kumhos I have just bought.
I spent two weeks in China in 2006 visiting potential engineering suppliers. I visited factories that had been set up as low cost outposts by western companies, factories that were existing manufacturers purchased by western companies to become low cost outposts, and Chinese owned/branded factories. The differences between the first two types and the third were huge. So as much as I would like my tyres to be made in England, I stick to the decent brands and I'm not concerned if they are made in China.

SD1too · 7th April 2022, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlan

A number of tyre manufacturers produce tyres in the UK:

Michelin have major factories in Dundee and Ballymena
Pirelli produce tyres at their head office in Burton upon Trent
Bridgestone produce tyres in Carlisle
Avon, manufacture in Melksham
Goodyear / Dunlop produce certain specialist tyres in Castle Bromwich

Courtesy of google.

Your information Atlan is from retailer Micheldever Tyres and is pitifully out of date.

Michelin closed its Dundee factory in 2020 and Ballymena two years before that.
Pirelli still has factories at Burton upon Trent and Carlisle amid rumours last year of closure. The company is owned by China National Chemical (ChemChina).
Bridgestone has no production in the UK.
Avon announced in 2018 that Melksham would manufacture only motorcycle and racing tyres.
Goodyear's Wolverhampton factory closed in 2015 and Fort Dunlop in Castle Bromwich in 2014. The site has been a retail, leisure and business centre for many years.

Simon

7th April 2022, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by operamagorum

I don't normally join in posts like this, but I have used all sorts of tyres over the years (I'm quite old)
I've bought tyres that cost the earth (Sierra Cosworth) and tyres that didn't (Morris Minor)
I've now had my 75 - 52 Tourer Diesel 160 - for 7 years. I have changed the tyres twice in that period.
My requirements are noise volume and grip in the wet.
When I researched this (extensively) I discovered that certain budget tyres beat branded tyres by a mile. The last time I took my car in for a tyre change it was driven by unusual wear. Nothing that would fail an MOT, but tracking was way out.
I last changed my tyres abot 7k ago and they are still almost perfect.
No matter how hard I drive my car I have full confidence in tyre grip. I don't know by how much a 190 out performs a Diesel 160 but, I would guess not enough to worry about tyres.
I genuinely cannot see the need to shod a car with tyres that almost meet the value of the car, when the car does not perform at that level.
I have bought my tyres via Asda tyres and thoroughly recommend.
Apologies for droning on
Geoff

So what brand do you have?

Popcorn · 7th April 2022, 21:27

At the moment I have national tyres budget brand auto green super sport chaser at each corner about £50 a go made in China (black round got groves in)no problems at all do every thing it says on the tin

MSS · 7th April 2022, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popcorn

At the moment I have national tyres budget brand auto green super sport chaser at each corner about £50 a go made in China (black round got groves in)no problems at all do every thing it says on the tin

Strange, my tyres never come in a tin. What does the tin say in your case?

coab · 8th April 2022, 05:50

If you are not sure just stick to the tyres that had fitted to the car when new. The manufacturers have a little more experience than most on which tyres to fit.

You can ask 10 different people and they can give you 10 different replies when it comes to tyres.

rovertone · 8th April 2022, 12:32

I'm close to replacing my tyres and currently on my second set of Goodyear Efficientgrip on 17" Meteors which are reasonably quiet and I get 20K which I think is ok.
I have just fitted a set of Marshal MU12's on my wife's Rover 25 which is the runabout and barely does 1k annually but I must say how impressed I am with them, very smooth and quiet compared with the mix of budget and original Dunlops before. I have not tested them in the wet and road holding isn't a priority.
Made in Birmingham apparently and owned by Kuhmo Tyres, so for sake of saving £13 a corner do I make a change???
I'd be interested to know what mileage others get from their tyres.

SD1too · 8th April 2022, 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by rovertone

I have just fitted a set of Marshal MU12s ...

Thanks for this Tony. I looked up the Marshal brand which is owned by Korean firm Kumho. They do indeed "develop and manufacture" for the European market in Birmingham.

Amazing!

Simon

Mike Trident · 9th April 2022, 06:55

I have Avon tires all round on mine, ALL need to be changed because they are cracked all over the place. There is plenty of tread on them, in fact the front pair are about 2 years old and have done about 12k miles.

All full of cracks! Never again will I buy Avon

8th April 2022, 12:32	#18
rovertone Gets stuck in Rover 75 Conne SE Auto CDTi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Redditch Posts: 667 Thanks: 185 Thanked 135 Times in 109 Posts	I'm close to replacing my tyres and currently on my second set of Goodyear Efficientgrip on 17" Meteors which are reasonably quiet and I get 20K which I think is ok. I have just fitted a set of Marshal MU12's on my wife's Rover 25 which is the runabout and barely does 1k annually but I must say how impressed I am with them, very smooth and quiet compared with the mix of budget and original Dunlops before. I have not tested them in the wet and road holding isn't a priority. Made in Birmingham apparently and owned by Kuhmo Tyres, so for sake of saving £13 a corner do I make a change??? I'd be interested to know what mileage others get from their tyres. __________________ 2003 Mk 1 Connie SE CDTi Auto Monogram Mirage 2/Sandstone Leather 511th CDTi out of 4744 produced 9th in Mirage 2 out of 17 produced Also 2004 Rover 25 SXi CVT, 1999 Megane Cabriolet and still missing my 800 Fastback.

9th April 2022, 06:55	#20
Mike Trident Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Saloon & Citroen C1 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Oakenshaw, Near Bradford Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 385 Thanked 552 Times in 328 Posts	I have Avon tires all round on mine, ALL need to be changed because they are cracked all over the place. There is plenty of tread on them, in fact the front pair are about 2 years old and have done about 12k miles. All full of cracks! Never again will I buy Avon __________________ Rover 75 2.0 CDTi (131Ps) Conn SE Saloon. (Manual) 160 Remap, cruise control, electric window blind, temp gauge, Real walnut / ZT interior, FBH with GSM control. BORN Tuesday, 5th October 2004 @ 12:35:52 This vehicle was the 104,679th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 3,318th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE (135) to be made out of 4,744 This vehicle was the 12,440th 75 in Starlight Silver (code: MBB) to be made out of 14,280 Starlight Silver 75s

7th April 2022, 18:25	#12
Vantheman Regular poster Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Dorset/Hampshire border Posts: 55 Thanks: 27 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts	The big names have factories all over the world. If you chose a brand that manufactures in the UK, then you won't necessarily get a UK made tyre because not all sizes are made at all factories. The last Goodyears I bought were made in China, as are the Kumhos I have just bought. I spent two weeks in China in 2006 visiting potential engineering suppliers. I visited factories that had been set up as low cost outposts by western companies, factories that were existing manufacturers purchased by western companies to become low cost outposts, and Chinese owned/branded factories. The differences between the first two types and the third were huge. So as much as I would like my tyres to be made in England, I stick to the decent brands and I'm not concerned if they are made in China.

7th April 2022, 21:27	#15
Popcorn Loves to post 55 cdti tourer slush box executive grill Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Sheffield Posts: 380 Thanks: 40 Thanked 85 Times in 72 Posts	At the moment I have national tyres budget brand auto green super sport chaser at each corner about £50 a go made in China (black round got groves in)no problems at all do every thing it says on the tin

8th April 2022, 05:50	#17
coab This is my second home 2007 57 GOLF GTi EDITION 30 DSG Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Newport Shropshire and Coventry. Posts: 5,137 Thanks: 2,424 Thanked 1,452 Times in 852 Posts	If you are not sure just stick to the tyres that had fitted to the car when new. The manufacturers have a little more experience than most on which tyres to fit. You can ask 10 different people and they can give you 10 different replies when it comes to tyres.