Duster vs MG GS

[clf]

Originally Posted by bazyerma

Yeah, I tried all to help both in my own way (Leafleting, rally's ect) but shame Scotland, NI and Gibraltar (Till Brexit I did not even know it was part of Britain! ) voices don't matter.

But your from Gateshead, that pretty much the North, too London it may as well be Scotland!

The voices did speak and were heard. That is what a democracy is about. Fortunately or unfortunately, you cannot have it both ways.

Just as an aside, I have no feelings either way on the subject.

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[mystabe]

Originally Posted by clf

Vauxhall, that'll be Peugeot hedging their bets. Wonder if that'll last long

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If you're on the drivetrain assembly line in Ellesmere Port I suspect you don't care as long as you have a job

[bazyerma]

Originally Posted by mystabe

You forgot the Falklands


To be honest the 'British Car Company' jobs are long long gone, you can bemoan that if you want but there are a lot of cars still made in Britain and lots of British suppliers to those companies. I would suggest that if you buy one of them (even if it's 'Japanese') you are in some small way supporting the good people who are employed building them in Britain. We are in a global economy whether or not you like it and we are in 2018 so moaning about the demise of Rover or BL is pretty pointless now

• MINI – MINI, MINI Clubman and MINI Countryman, in Cowley, Oxford
• Honda – Civic and CR-V in Swindon
• Toyota – Auris, Auris hybrid and Avensis in Burnaston, Derbyshire
• Nissan – Juke, Qashqai, Note and Leaf and Infiniti Q30 in Sunderland, Tyne and Wear
• Lotus – Elise, Evora and Exige in Norfolk
• Aston Martin – DB9, Vantage, Rapide, Vanquish, and DB11 in Gaydon, Warwickshire
• Bentley Motors – Continental, Flying Spur and Mulsanne in Crewe, Cheshire
• Rolls Royce – Ghost and Wraith in Goodwood, West Sussex
• Jaguar – F-Pace and XE in Solihull, and F-type, XJ, XF and XE in Castle Bromwich, Birmingham
• Land Rover – Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque in Halewood, Merseyside, and Range Rover, Range Rover Sport and Land Rover Defender in Solihull, West Midlands
• Vauxhall – Astra at Ellesmere Port and Vivaro van in Luton

Something for everyone in that list

What, Nothing in Scotland!

Yeah, Peugeot (PSA Group) were smart buying Vauxhall. Although I do hear they are reducing the range not to compete with what the French make, But good way to make French cars in the UK, encase of import taxes ect.. But If I was a betting man I would bet on them phasing out Vauxhall altogether. (The Vivaro being the same as the Renault Traffic, be a good way to hurt the old enemy Renault!)

Viva la revolución!

[mystabe]

Originally Posted by bazyerma

What, Nothing in Scotland!

Yeah, Peugeot (PSA Group) were smart buying Vauxhall. Although I do hear they are reducing the range not to compete with what the French make, But good way to make French cars in the UK, encase of import taxes ect.. But If I was a betting man I would bet on them phasing out Vauxhall altogether. (The Vivaro being the same as the Renault Traffic, be a good way to hurt the old enemy Renault!)

Viva la revolución!

Yeah but a revolution against what exactly? people having decent jobs in 2019?

[bazyerma]

Originally Posted by mystabe

Yeah but a revolution against what exactly? people having decent jobs in 2019?

There will be a lot less of them in the future!

I would like a revolution against the Monarchy and the Rich, Like the Russians but without the mass graves.....

[mystabe]

Originally Posted by bazyerma

There will be a lot less of them in the future!

I would like a revolution against the Monarchy and the Rich, Like the Russians but without the mass graves.....

Ah well, there's the rub - you vote for rebellion and accidentally empower the very people you wanted to get rid of

[bazyerma]

Originally Posted by mystabe

Ah well, there's the rub - you vote for rebellion and accidentally empower the very people you wanted to get rid of

Sadly I lost the first vote ( Scotland independence - Get rid of Westmoster, which I hate with a burning passion) But kinda won the EU one ( I am a remoaner, but to be fair, I and most of Scotland voted for it).

So I have nothing left to do than think about cars!

So bought a BMW 330CI, and that has made be happy. I just had to accept the MG ZTT 190 would never be fast enough and FWD is boring. Shame the V8 ZTT is more than I want to pay, As they are pretty estates, and fast enough!!