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Old 3rd September 2014, 19:50   #121
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Check my posts on this topic over the years and there had been a huge shift.
9 months ago there is no way I would vote yes, now I can't think of reasons to vote No.
I suppose it had been a long time coming. Although i've not really kept up with the debate about it all, it's past me by. I've not seen or heard that much about it. But I don't buy a paper or watch the news on Tv.
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Old 3rd September 2014, 19:56   #122
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Please can people remember that this isn't Scotland vs England it's not its Scotland deciding whether it wants to be in a union with the other 3 countries.

It annoys me when people say about England.
No but lets face it, England is the dominant party. If Scotland votes for independence Wales will be hot on our heels and NI has always been 50/50.......
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Old 3rd September 2014, 19:58   #123
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The time has flown in, and what a journey.
Check my posts on this topic over the years and there had been a huge shift.
9 months ago there is no way I would vote yes, now I can't think of reasons to vote No.
Exactly the same with me Simon. At the beginning this was a nice idea but all a bit far fetched and romantic. Now I'll be devastated if we vote to remain in the union!
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Old 3rd September 2014, 20:00   #124
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Not sure id see that happening. I don't think any more countries would split off.
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Old 3rd September 2014, 20:14   #125
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Why does it irk you? It's simply where we are. And that is poles apart. It's not you, it's us, we want different things. The Union just isn't working for us anymore (and I'm not convinced it really did). We really, really don't want the Tories or UKIP in Scotland and why should we be forced into it? If England wants UKIP then that's completely up to you but we don't and that's one of my reasons for wanting the union dissolved.
Sorry but I beg to disagree - of course the Union worked. Glasgow was the Empires second city and got very wealthy on the back of it. Would it have been as prosperous in an independent Scotland? I doubt it. All the Scottish scientists, engineers etc succeeded under Union patronage that they may not have got under an independent Scotland. How do you think the British Isles would have fared in both world wars (particularly WW2) if Scotland was independent and went the way of neutral Eire? We'd likely be speaking German now! At the end of the day according to the polls this is going to be tight and the nightmare will be an almost even divide on the vote. The result - a divided nation where no one is the real winner
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Why does it irk you? It's simply where we are. And that is poles apart. It's not you, it's us, we want different things. The Union just isn't working for us anymore (and I'm not convinced it really did). We really, really don't want the Tories or UKIP in Scotland and why should we be forced into it? If England wants UKIP then that's completely up to you but we don't and that's one of my reasons for wanting the union dissolved.
I'm quite ambivalent, I couldn't care less one way or t'other.

But....what do you want that's so different to what we want? I'm intrigued.

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Change for the sake of change ??

I think not.

Yes it will be difficult but we Scots relish a challange .

I see a change in everyday peoples attitudes and the dont knows are coming around to a YES way of thinking.

Nothing lasts for ever and the Union is no different.

And yes its getting near to the vote and all my passengers are talking about it.

I can see a very high turnout.
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I think the Scots see some sort of Utopia ahead. I don't think 'independence' will lead them to it.

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I think the Scots see some sort of Utopia ahead. I don't think 'independence' will lead them to it.

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What do you see ahead, when 'independent'? What will be better?

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