Scam!!(Fraud)

kevrandle · 8th December 2011, 10:18

Following on from a recent thread about scam offers to buy cars, caravans etc. I thought I should post a recent attempt to defraud me of several thousand poundsworth of caravan.

O.K., the attempt is pathetic and transparent but nevertheless infuriating. I recently advertised my caravan for sale on caravans4u.com and, after an enquiry re. condition, price, etc received this:

Thanks for the quick response and I'm satisfied with the condition of the motohome..I am OK with the price and i will love to make an instant purchase because i'm buying this motohome for my dad as a birthday gift, I'm located in Hillsdale Township MI but due to my occupation as a marine engineer at this moment i am presently working offshore, sometimes access to regular emails and phone calls are very poor in offshore due to inefficiency of the immarsat service. Fortunately the internet access working averagely and i was able to come across the advert of motohome . I really want the motohome to be a surprise for my dad by not disclosing the motohome until the delivery is made to him so am sure he will be more than happy with the motohome. I don't mind adding an extra £50 for you to take the advert down from the site so that i can be rest assured that am in hand of the motohome. I insisted on PayPal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank account attached to it, i will need you to give me your PayPal email address so i can make the payment as soon as possible for the motohome and i will be happy to pay PayPal charges and please if you don't have PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, i will like you to go on tohttp://www.paypal.com and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with PayPal so that i can put the money through.

Notice : You don't need to bother your self about the shipment and the International Health Certificate, i have an international courier shipping company that will come to your location for the pick-up,they will also determine and secure the shipment can be done, because i will be adding some extra fee to the payment which is meant for the shipping and insurance..all you need to do is as soon as you receive the money in your account you will deduct your motohome fee and send the rest funds to the shipping company information that will be provided to you in the mean time....So I will need you to provide me with the following information to facilitate the making of the payment.

1.Your PayPal full name.
2.Your PayPal Email Address.
3..Your phone number.

Once again ,I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping. I will have my mover come over as soon as you have your money in your account.

Do Have a nice day,
My Best Regard
Sam

I have reported the mail to the website and asked for my advert to be withdrawn but have recieved no response.

I know we are aware of these 'scams' but I am unhappy with the term 'scam'. It is, in fact, a criminal offence and a serious attempt at fraud on a global scale. Some people will fall for it. I believe, not sure, that the perpetrator is from Nigeria.

Kev.

greendriver · 8th December 2011, 10:28

Top Gear will do anything to get their hands on a caravan, nowadays....

windrush · 8th December 2011, 10:46

[B]Hi Kevin, You are as I understand it are selling a caravan and this guy is on about buying a Motorhome It makes one suspicious from the start/B]

kevrandle · 8th December 2011, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by windrush

[B]Hi Kevin, You are as I understand it are selling a caravan and this guy is on about buying a Motorhome It makes one suspicious from the start/B]

Hi Derek,
Yes, alarm bells from the start. It is referred to as a 'motohome', you'd think they would get the spelling correct even if the grammar is awful.

Kev.

Shabbs · 8th December 2011, 11:25

I almost fell for similar when purchasing a Range Rover via ebay, he asked for payment via bidpay which concerned me, when I stated that ebay don't allow bidpay he fell silent and was never heard of again. The account had been hacked as the account holder had 100% feedback. Buyers beware.

nick nick · 8th December 2011, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrandle

Following on from a recent thread about scam offers to buy cars, caravans etc. I thought I should post a recent attempt to defraud me of several thousand poundsworth of caravan.

O.K., the attempt is pathetic and transparent but nevertheless infuriating. I recently advertised my caravan for sale on caravans4u.com and, after an enquiry re. condition, price, etc received this:

Thanks for the quick response and I'm satisfied with the condition of the motohome..I am OK with the price and i will love to make an instant purchase because i'm buying this motohome for my dad as a birthday gift, I'm located in Hillsdale Township MI but due to my occupation as a marine engineer at this moment i am presently working offshore, sometimes access to regular emails and phone calls are very poor in offshore due to inefficiency of the immarsat service. Fortunately the internet access working averagely and i was able to come across the advert of motohome . I really want the motohome to be a surprise for my dad by not disclosing the motohome until the delivery is made to him so am sure he will be more than happy with the motohome. I don't mind adding an extra £50 for you to take the advert down from the site so that i can be rest assured that am in hand of the motohome. I insisted on PayPal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank account attached to it, i will need you to give me your PayPal email address so i can make the payment as soon as possible for the motohome and i will be happy to pay PayPal charges and please if you don't have PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, i will like you to go on tohttp://www.paypal.com and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with PayPal so that i can put the money through.

Notice : You don't need to bother your self about the shipment and the International Health Certificate, i have an international courier shipping company that will come to your location for the pick-up,they will also determine and secure the shipment can be done, because i will be adding some extra fee to the payment which is meant for the shipping and insurance..all you need to do is as soon as you receive the money in your account you will deduct your motohome fee and send the rest funds to the shipping company information that will be provided to you in the mean time....So I will need you to provide me with the following information to facilitate the making of the payment.

1.Your PayPal full name.
2.Your PayPal Email Address.
3..Your phone number.

Once again ,I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping. I will have my mover come over as soon as you have your money in your account.

Do Have a nice day,
My Best Regard
Sam

I have reported the mail to the website and asked for my advert to be withdrawn but have recieved no response.

I know we are aware of these 'scams' but I am unhappy with the term 'scam'. It is, in fact, a criminal offence and a serious attempt at fraud on a global scale. Some people will fall for it. I believe, not sure, that the perpetrator is from Nigeria.

Kev.

These people must work off template letters as some of the text in the above
is identical to the text used in the recent thread .
I dont know how these people can lay stright in bed

den-diggaler · 8th December 2011, 14:24

they have tried con with jukeboxes & boats as well does make you concerned about buying/selling online

Brabus · 8th December 2011, 16:27

They'll try anything.Just wonder how many times they are succesfull.

HarryM1BYT · 8th December 2011, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brabus

They'll try anything.Just wonder how many times they are succesfull.

If only 1 in 1,000 fall for it, they are ahead.

RPWC · 8th December 2011, 20:19

my dad had a scam letter recently,from some chinaman,claiming that my dad was a benefactor,in the estate of some bloke who had the same surname and initial,who had died in china,but he must not tell anyone about it.No money was asked for on this occasion,but I bet if he'd responded,there would have been "administration fees"
no address,just an e-mail and international phone number.
Wonder what they'll come up with next

8th December 2011, 10:18	#1
kevrandle Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sheffield Posts: 299 Thanks: 37 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Scam!!(Fraud) Following on from a recent thread about scam offers to buy cars, caravans etc. I thought I should post a recent attempt to defraud me of several thousand poundsworth of caravan. O.K., the attempt is pathetic and transparent but nevertheless infuriating. I recently advertised my caravan for sale on caravans4u.com and, after an enquiry re. condition, price, etc received this: Thanks for the quick response and I'm satisfied with the condition of the motohome..I am OK with the price and i will love to make an instant purchase because i'm buying this motohome for my dad as a birthday gift, I'm located in Hillsdale Township MI but due to my occupation as a marine engineer at this moment i am presently working offshore, sometimes access to regular emails and phone calls are very poor in offshore due to inefficiency of the immarsat service. Fortunately the internet access working averagely and i was able to come across the advert of motohome . I really want the motohome to be a surprise for my dad by not disclosing the motohome until the delivery is made to him so am sure he will be more than happy with the motohome. I don't mind adding an extra £50 for you to take the advert down from the site so that i can be rest assured that am in hand of the motohome. I insisted on PayPal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank account attached to it, i will need you to give me your PayPal email address so i can make the payment as soon as possible for the motohome and i will be happy to pay PayPal charges and please if you don't have PayPal account yet, it is very easy to set up, i will like you to go on tohttp://www.paypal.com and get it set up, after you have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for registration with PayPal so that i can put the money through. Notice : You don't need to bother your self about the shipment and the International Health Certificate, i have an international courier shipping company that will come to your location for the pick-up,they will also determine and secure the shipment can be done, because i will be adding some extra fee to the payment which is meant for the shipping and insurance..all you need to do is as soon as you receive the money in your account you will deduct your motohome fee and send the rest funds to the shipping company information that will be provided to you in the mean time....So I will need you to provide me with the following information to facilitate the making of the payment. 1.Your PayPal full name. 2.Your PayPal Email Address. 3..Your phone number. Once again ,I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping. I will have my mover come over as soon as you have your money in your account. Do Have a nice day, My Best Regard Sam I have reported the mail to the website and asked for my advert to be withdrawn but have recieved no response. I know we are aware of these 'scams' but I am unhappy with the term 'scam'. It is, in fact, a criminal offence and a serious attempt at fraud on a global scale. Some people will fall for it. I believe, not sure, that the perpetrator is from Nigeria. Kev.

8th December 2011, 10:28	#2
greendriver This is my second home MG ZTT 180 in Poseidon Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Croydon Posts: 3,745 Thanks: 44 Thanked 86 Times in 75 Posts	Top Gear will do anything to get their hands on a caravan, nowadays.... __________________ *None of my troubles are Rover*

8th December 2011, 10:46	#3
windrush This is my second home December 2004 Rover 75 2ltr CDTi Connoisseur SE HL Tourer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aldershot Posts: 74,464 Thanks: 2,431 Thanked 3,015 Times in 2,347 Posts	[B]Hi Kevin, You are as I understand it are selling a caravan and this guy is on about buying a Motorhome It makes one suspicious from the start/B] __________________ ][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] My Pearl Black Beauty Best regards Lilian and Derek Club Member No. 96 / Forum User No. 111 REGISTRATION to the club as a member FREE, FULL MEMBERSHIP is £10 WE WILL REMEMBER THEM

8th December 2011, 11:25	#5
Shabbs Loves to post Rover 75 Contemporary SE, Starlight Silver Join Date: May 2008 Location: North of Engerland Posts: 497 Thanks: 14 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts	I almost fell for similar when purchasing a Range Rover via ebay, he asked for payment via bidpay which concerned me, when I stated that ebay don't allow bidpay he fell silent and was never heard of again. The account had been hacked as the account holder had 100% feedback. Buyers beware. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]--------------------------------- 2005 Contemporary SE CDTi The Right Colour - Starlight Silver Member No: 3872 ---------------------------------

8th December 2011, 14:24	#7
den-diggaler Newbie rover 75 saloon Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: lancing Posts: 29 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	they have tried con with jukeboxes & boats as well does make you concerned about buying/selling online __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

8th December 2011, 16:27	#8
Brabus This is my second home 01 75 tourer cdt,1973 Rover 3500S,,1974 Rover 3500 Auto,1998 216 SE Coupe, 1968 Morris Minor 1000 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: bangor/down Posts: 4,839 Thanks: 62 Thanked 184 Times in 158 Posts	They'll try anything.Just wonder how many times they are succesfull. __________________ Regards Neale [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 121st 75 Tourer to be made 15th 75 Tourer CDT Club SE to be made 36th 75 Tourer in Zircon Silver Metallic to be made Membership No 903 I was one of the 541

8th December 2011, 20:19	#10
RPWC This is my second home 75 model car Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 20,196 Thanks: 4,008 Thanked 5,083 Times in 3,114 Posts	my dad had a scam letter recently,from some chinaman,claiming that my dad was a benefactor,in the estate of some bloke who had the same surname and initial,who had died in china,but he must not tell anyone about it.No money was asked for on this occasion,but I bet if he'd responded,there would have been "administration fees" no address,just an e-mail and international phone number. Wonder what they'll come up with next __________________ Cheers. Rich…