help please?????

ocdskull · 9th February 2013, 13:53

Hi All,
Hope all is well.
So my 2 problems due to very scarce funds this has had to wait a long time.
I had an over-heating problem and found that the fan motor was completely beyond repair.
But that's not the problem.

the fan I had was the brush type and good fortune at my local yard had a complete fan with the gold resistor for the bargain price of £18.00 (no this is not a mistake) bargain of the year....so I need to ask do I need to change any of the wires for this to work or should it be plug and play?

My second problem is that unfortunately I allowed someone else to remove the engine mount and other brackets ect to allow a water pump replacement as mine was shot in the overheating.
Anyway they thought they would be helpful and also remove the timing/cam belt (the long toothed one at the front) unfortunately they did not have the cam locking tools and now I need to set the timing without the help of said tools.
Can anyone give me a diagram of the timing mark settings. from what i have read this might be a problem but it must have a setup mark surely.
Pleeease help.
I have an idea of the setup but would like confirmation

thanks

T-Cut · 9th February 2013, 14:03

This will give you the gist on the timing. Avoid rotating anything if the belt is off.

TC

kaiser · 9th February 2013, 17:03

The timing should be set with the engine in safe mode.
See Haynes if you don't know what that is.

At that position, the rear sprockets have markings that must be in line.
That is as simple as it is.!

The engine can be moved, if not already in that position.

Take the spark plugs out, and remove the timing covers. Make sure that no valves are on open, as any piston approaches top.

Do all this by hand. No electric starter!!

stocktake · 9th February 2013, 17:47

Worth noting the OP has a KV6

ocdskull · 9th February 2013, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiser

The timing should be set with the engine in safe mode.
See Haynes if you don't know what that is.

At that position, the rear sprockets have markings that must be in line.
That is as simple as it is.!

The engine can be moved, if not already in that position.

Take the spark plugs out, and remove the timing covers. Make sure that no valves are on open, as any piston approaches top.

Do all this by hand. No electric starter!!

Thanks guys.

Kaiser that's what I hoped but had to make sure. all the short belts were not taken off so on that advice should it spring round past the marks, is this the reason that you should used the correct locking tools?, so its more about that there is tension at the timing marks or do I have another problem?

carpy · 9th February 2013, 17:58

I dont know if this will be any good to you but here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fFx8SPiTSc

ocdskull · 10th February 2013, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpy

I dont know if this will be any good to you but here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fFx8SPiTSc

thanks watched this, bit of help but still need a bit more to confirm line up to TDC. I can't afford to get it wrong. lol

ocdskull · 11th February 2013, 12:38

what do I need to do to the wiring to change the fan from brush type to resistor type??

wuzerk · 11th February 2013, 13:10

The 2 speed fan is a direct plug in replacement for the older 3 speed type.
( they are both brush type but the 2 speed spreads the low speed load across more brushes which prevents premature wear).
Make sure that you strap the leads securely so that they cannot rub on the matrix behind them.

ocdskull · 11th February 2013, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wuzerk

The 2 speed fan is a direct plug in replacement for the older 3 speed type.
( they are both brush type but the 2 speed spreads the low speed load across more brushes which prevents premature wear).
Make sure that you strap the leads securely so that they cannot rub on the matrix behind them.

Thank you for that maybe now I can put her back together

9th February 2013, 13:53	#1
ocdskull Regular poster MG ZT saloon Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: St Austell Posts: 88 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	help please????? Hi All, Hope all is well. So my 2 problems due to very scarce funds this has had to wait a long time. I had an over-heating problem and found that the fan motor was completely beyond repair. But that's not the problem. the fan I had was the brush type and good fortune at my local yard had a complete fan with the gold resistor for the bargain price of £18.00 (no this is not a mistake) bargain of the year....so I need to ask do I need to change any of the wires for this to work or should it be plug and play? My second problem is that unfortunately I allowed someone else to remove the engine mount and other brackets ect to allow a water pump replacement as mine was shot in the overheating. Anyway they thought they would be helpful and also remove the timing/cam belt (the long toothed one at the front) unfortunately they did not have the cam locking tools and now I need to set the timing without the help of said tools. Can anyone give me a diagram of the timing mark settings. from what i have read this might be a problem but it must have a setup mark surely. Pleeease help. I have an idea of the setup but would like confirmation thanks __________________ If I upset you "I'm sorry". If not then take a number and I will get to you ASAP

9th February 2013, 17:47	#4
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ocdskull Regular poster MG ZT saloon Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: St Austell Posts: 88 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	one more question what do I need to do to the wiring to change the fan from brush type to resistor type?? __________________ If I upset you "I'm sorry". If not then take a number and I will get to you ASAP

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wuzerk Passed Away Rover 75 CDT 03 auto Conn. SE Join Date: May 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,885 Thanks: 104 Thanked 254 Times in 204 Posts	Fan The 2 speed fan is a direct plug in replacement for the older 3 speed type. ( they are both brush type but the 2 speed spreads the low speed load across more brushes which prevents premature wear). Make sure that you strap the leads securely so that they cannot rub on the matrix behind them.

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T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,753 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	This will give you the gist on the timing. Avoid rotating anything if the belt is off. TC

9th February 2013, 17:03	#3
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	The timing should be set with the engine in safe mode. See Haynes if you don't know what that is. At that position, the rear sprockets have markings that must be in line. That is as simple as it is.! The engine can be moved, if not already in that position. Take the spark plugs out, and remove the timing covers. Make sure that no valves are on open, as any piston approaches top. Do all this by hand. No electric starter!!