In or Out?

[Leyland Worldmaster]

EU of course! I don't mean to tread on the toes of the existing thread. For discussion, go there as this is purely numbers to satisfy my curiosity!

Please keep any comments clean and polite though!

[FLYER]

Strange one this for me .


I want to be out but i also want to be independent from England .

If Scotland votes IN but England votes out we in Scotland can ask for another Independence vote as we want to stay in.

Hmmm decisions decisions..


I vote Penguins .

No Unicorns .

No Penguins .

Oh beggar it .


I,m undecided.

Convince me .

[FLYING BANANA]

In, out and shake it all about...........

[stevenicks]

OUT, OUT, OUT, OUT , OUT ETC, ETC... WE DON'T NEED NEED THE EU

[FLYER]

Originally Posted by stevenicks

OUT, OUT, OUT, OUT , OUT ETC, ETC... WE DON'T NEED NEED THE EU

In the long run we most likely dont but the dis united kingdom is dis united about the subject .

Anyhoo.

Penguins .

[mininuts]

I don't know which way to go
So, do I not vote or do I toss a coin?

I'm bored solid of seeing the Muppet Show every night on the news

[barney bear]

No advice for anybody else, you should make your own minds up, I will be voting out though purely because I think the immigration problem is only going to get worse when they let all the other ex Russian and Eastern European states join.

This country is struggling to house its own citizens, so how the hell are we expected to house all the rest who want to come here

[Lancpudn]

OUT, already sent my postal vote off with a "X" in the out box.

We already have enough government here, certainly don't need anymore from that behemoth EU.

I like this short video of why I'm voting out, it explains it much better than I could.

[rab60bit]

Originally Posted by FLYER

In the long run we most likely dont but the dis united kingdom is dis united about the subject .

Anyhoo.

Penguins .

I'm not a Scot but your question is same old same old.
I want Scotland to remain as a part of the UK (and for Scotland to really want to stay) because that makes us all 'stronger' and definitely safer country and it's just good common sense/joined-up thinking. I don't want to start an argument over independence but from where I sit south of the border the SNP dominated assembly, even with increased powers, just can't cut the mustard on policy once responsibility/accountability starts to get apportioned/questioned - they run out of scapegoats - anyway, I'm not best placed to really comment:-
BUT, should the EU referendum go the way of leave AND the SNP managed to a) have and b) win a fresh independence referendum just how long do you feel it would take to actually gain entry?
It would be a brand new country for a start, no record of national financial stability, no international credit references and arguably a failing oil economy (the previous major claim to independence revenue support) - and we all know how oil revenue was spun two years back, calculations made on the basis of $130/barrel (which by the way it has never ever reached nor likely to either) and currently sits at approx. 1/3 of that valuation.
You will probably have no option other than to adopt the Euro.
Do you feel Scotland could thus manage an orderly UK exit?
If your answer to that is yes, wither shall you go - an undemocratic, unaccountable sycophantic assembly where you might have no more than 10 votes in 770 (which, by the time you could eventually manage full membership, will exceed 800) and be a smallish member of a Federal State of Europe…
and as just one good example of how well the EU works (doesn't) let us all remind ourselves how the present EU body couldn't even manage a decent fist of stabilising the current migrant emergency - member countries simply went off in all directions looking after their own interests, closing borders, offering unilateral invitations to one and all, throwing security to the wind…etc. etc and, following a disastrous hiatus, what did they do to resolve this self created shambles - they 'hired' (at huge cost, your money and mine) a mercenary (Turkey, a regressive authoritarian country with a none too great human rights record) to police the tide of humanity on a quid pro quo basis.
Many months earlier this wonderful EC disregarded the suggestion of the UK member to contain the problem at the protagonist borders - not a complete solution but a doable one.

[neilbaker86]

Interesting result on here so far, I've been keeping an eye on the various polling companies over the last few weeks and it has ebbed and flowed in both directions, although our little poll here suggests they may be repeating the mistakes from the general election!