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1st December 2019, 19:56 | #141 |
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There have been many posts in this thread which is now over 200 posts long that contain no political comment !
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1st December 2019, 20:56 | #143 |
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4th December 2019, 20:32 | #144 |
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5th December 2019, 06:18 | #145 |
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And Tesla is now working on a battery pack that they claim will last 1,000,000 miles !
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5th December 2019, 09:06 | #146 |
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Well if they also have a decent range and fast charging rate then they will have cracked it.
Electric cars have been around since the 1850s, and the battery technology has been the only thing over the years to hold them back. |
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If by 'cracked it' you mean an average hatchback will cost £50,000 instead of less than £10,000.... 'Battery technology' continues to hold 'them' back. Still not learning the lessons of ubiquitous products. E.g petrol / diesel only two fuels used in 99% of road going vehicles (ok now complicating by adding Ethanol etc). But I was more thinking of the nightmare of mobile phone chargers - remember before they standardised on the charging voltage and connector? Rechargeable battery packs should be swappable and fit many vehicles. Imagine the 'recharge' speed if you could swap out some (or all) of your batteries for ready charged ones? and simultaneously charge the 'fixed' batteries (if any) at the same time. The two problems that affect electric cars from a user perspective is range between recharges when coupled with recharge times, and the weight of the vehicle (battery weight). Currently it's 1:45 each way to visit my Mum and just over 80 miles meaning I'd have to stop twice to 50% recharge (at least) in a Nissan leaf That would either mean having to stop at my Mum's for 13 hours to charge from a normal household plug, or two 30 minute stops mid journey each way for rapid charging. So now my 3 hour round trip is 4 hours - an hour of it spent somewhere I don't want to be? Here's another - Currently planning next years tour of the highlands - it's well over 300 miles to Inverness from home. that's 8-9 hours driving with one good lunch stop. In an electric vehicle I'd need a 200mile range and a rapid charger at very close to the halfway point. But continuing on around the top of Scotland for another 1000 miles in 4 more days? I don't fancy my chances at the moment.
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Only if you buy a Tesla. Yes the battery technology isn't at a stage where I would buy an electric car, as I also drive long distance sometimes for work, but it is improving, as is the charging infrastructure. |
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Ok, true - but the fact is that you still pay a hefty premium for EV cars. Look at the leaf - if it were £11k new then it might be better value (if it had 3 times the range...). I've no doubt that there's further progress to be made in all areas with electric cars. And many applicable uses. Whether they'll be able to be competitive with the utility of an ICE powered car by 2040 I doubt. On the subject of cost I can only see that going up while the batteries continue to require rare minerals in their manufacture.
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I notice nobody mentions the effects of cold weather on the battery packs of EV's
Reduced range, and not recommended to charge lithium ion batteries under 0 degrees. That's going to cause all sorts of problems in very cold weather. Russ
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