Is a B&D Simple Start safe to use?

[Supervinnie40]

Dudes... can we please keep it a bit civilized? Asking somebody to leave and read some stuff isn't very nice. Everybody here is entitled to their own opinion, even if that opinion is completely wrong.
And as long as nobody comes up with some scientific formula, backed up with difficult equations and a picture of graduate day at the uni (holding hands with Stephen Hawking), I consider everybodies 'knowledge' an 'opinion' (with all due respect of course).

I found a problem with testing... The device automatically shuts off when the car battery reaches a certain charge (somewhere around 12v I guess). Since my car battery is in great condition, the device 'senses' that there is more than enough power/charge in the battery to start the car. So the device doesn't switch on.
It needs a battery that is much more empty before it actually does anything.

So basically; car battery topped up = device not working.
Car battery totally empty = device not working.
Car battery somewhere in between = device works.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by VMax1000

Oops.......no need to get personal here.

Stored energy will equalise as will 2 buckets of water.
If you have proof of the opposite, please share.

But as you said before, I don't know about qualifications of people, nor their background, but they haven't given any proof either

So if you would care to explain why it wouldn't work as 2 buckets of water
(and please include the formulas, as I can understand those) feel free.

Buckets----YES.

Batteries----NO.

As Harry said ( And maybe you have noticed ) Batteries are NOT buckets.

( Totally different size and shape for a start. )

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by Supervinnie40

Dudes... can we please keep it a bit civilized? Asking somebody to leave and read some stuff isn't very nice. Everybody here is entitled to their own opinion, even if that opinion is completely wrong.
And as long as nobody comes up with some scientific formula, backed up with difficult equations and a picture of graduate day at the uni (holding hands with Stephen Hawking), I consider everybodies 'knowledge' an 'opinion' (with all due respect of course).

I found a problem with testing... The device automatically shuts off when the car battery reaches a certain charge (somewhere around 12v I guess). Since my car battery is in great condition, the device 'senses' that there is more than enough power/charge in the battery to start the car. So the device doesn't switch on.
It needs a battery that is much more empty before it actually does anything.

So basically; car battery topped up = device not working.
Car battery totally empty = device not working.
Car battery somewhere in between = device works.

Now that sounds VERY reasonable.

[VMax1000]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

The 12 volt DC outlet is a description of the part that is IN YOUR car.

The 18 volt booster plugs into the 12 volt outlet.--

Also see post #39 I believe

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...1&postcount=39

[COLVERT]

Great debate, this-------------Now don't forget folks it's chemicals reacting inside a battery. Just cos the product comes out travelling at 186,000 miles per second doesn't mean the internal reaction is going at that speed.

You can play about with figures and boost output and reduce times but the battery can't join in the fun.

Too high an output in too short a time and the battery quite happily goes into meltdown.

Batteries are DELICATE things and should be treated as such.

[VMax1000]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

Great debate, this-------------Now don't forget folks it's chemicals reacting inside a battery. Just cos the product comes out travelling at 186,000 miles per second doesn't mean the internal reaction is going at that speed.

You can play about with figures and boost output and reduce times but the battery can't join in the fun.

Too high an output in too short a time and the battery quite happily goes into meltdown.

Batteries are DELICATE things and should be treated as such.

What...............you're saying my wife is a battery now ?

Not quite sure if this would classify as a debate. Too many egos at stake.
I'm happy to poke but haven't seen a decent scientific argument yet.

Maybe formulas don't have a place at this forum but I do have a PM-box ?????

[MSS]

Originally Posted by Supervinnie40

Dudes... And as long as nobody comes up with some scientific formula, backed up with difficult equations...

Here you go.








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>> stored energy equalisation only applies to linear capacitive networks.

>> Buckets no equal battery.

QED

[VMax1000]

Originally Posted by mss

Here you go.

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>> stored energy equalisation only applies to linear capacitive networks.

>> Buckets no equal battery.

QED

Interesting, but could you post a link to the site containing the formulas rather than the formulas themselves?

Allows for context you see................

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

Hi--Harry.


Did you read my post 117. If so, what do you think ???



Colv.

No problem with that, at all!

[HenryD]

We've all bought cordless drills in the past,well the Op has bought a cordless battery charger,it's ability may well not be great but that's what it is