Connector C0580

magellan · 19th March 2009, 14:09

Hello,

Can anyone please help me understand something about a discrepancy between Rave and my car when it comes to electrical schema.

First of all, I have a pre-facelift Rover 75 with manual gearbox, no autodimming mirror fitted.

Looking at the pre-facelift Rave electrical diagram for the rear view mirror (I'm thinking about fitting it without running a cable to the boot), I can see, that the 2 wires finally ends on the passenger fusebox:

-reversing (white/yellow) ends into connector C0580-3
-live feed (green/red) into C0580-49

This connector C0580 is at the back of the passenger fusebox (difficult to mistake since they are all labelled there).

Now whereas I was expecting to find in my car such coloured wired ending into the C0580 as per rave, I found 2 thick brown wires.

Can someone bring some light on this?

Thank you

Greeners · 19th March 2009, 14:16

From memory C0580 is the big pink connector........

Not sure why you want to run a cable to the boot for the auto dip mirror.

If the wires aren't at the bas of the drivers A pillar (most aren't) then run the wiring from the mirror down the passenger A pillar and connect it straight to the vacant cavities in the fuse box.

I've done a couple this way, and it's the easiest way to do it.

magellan · 19th March 2009, 14:19

According to rave, it's a 3 pin black connector and connector names are embossed onto the palstic of the fusebox.

That's exactly what I'm planning to do but which cavities ?

Greeners · 19th March 2009, 15:05

You are correct, 580 is the black connector, the ADM uses the Pink connector for the live feed and the connector next to it (purple ?) for the reverse feed.

I think the White / Yellow should be an empty and is cavity 8

The feed to the reversing lights will be in place, so you need to pick up the green/ brown.

magellan · 19th March 2009, 15:19

Ok, so let's recap before I go to the car:
-the adm does not actually use the 580 connector (is Rave wrong?)
-live feed on pink connector
-reverse on pin 8 of the blue connector (next to pink). I think there are already white/yellow wires there (a thick and thin one) can I connect onto one of those ?
-ground wherever

Greeners · 19th March 2009, 15:29

sounds about right, but I'd need to physically stick my head in the fuse box to be 100% correct.

My wiring diagram shows connector 589 used, not 580.

raykay · 19th March 2009, 16:09

Are you looking at the right connector? my copy of the wiring diagram also shows the White/Yellow in pin 8 of connector 589 - the Purple one, but only in cars fitted with the rain sensor.

magellan · 19th March 2009, 16:36

Ok,

There is a mistake in the prefacelift rave. as it states C580 and it can't be.
I checked the facelift rave and it states C589.

I'll check my fusebox tomorrow morning and will let you know but the latest is likely to be correct.

raykay · 19th March 2009, 17:49

Yours must be a early copy as mine is dated 2002 and it shows the White/Yellow it in connector 589, so it looks like they corrected long before the facelift was introduced.

magellan · 21st March 2009, 22:40

Ok, I think I have a BMW mirror, provided by Les. The colour of the wires in the mirror are red, brown and grey. Here is how I connected it:

-red into C0589, pin 4 (where already sits a green/brown wire)
-grey into C589, pin 8 (where already sits a yellow/white wire)
-brown into C589, pin 9 (where already sits a yellow/white wire)

As it is now, it doesn't seem to be working. Did I do correctly? How can I test (I was not fully sure how to test)?

Any help appreciated.

Thank you.

19th March 2009, 14:09	#1
magellan Avid contributor Rover 75 Club SE saloon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow G13 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Connector C0580 Hello, Can anyone please help me understand something about a discrepancy between Rave and my car when it comes to electrical schema. First of all, I have a pre-facelift Rover 75 with manual gearbox, no autodimming mirror fitted. Looking at the pre-facelift Rave electrical diagram for the rear view mirror (I'm thinking about fitting it without running a cable to the boot), I can see, that the 2 wires finally ends on the passenger fusebox: -reversing (white/yellow) ends into connector C0580-3 -live feed (green/red) into C0580-49 This connector C0580 is at the back of the passenger fusebox (difficult to mistake since they are all labelled there). Now whereas I was expecting to find in my car such coloured wired ending into the C0580 as per rave, I found 2 thick brown wires. Can someone bring some light on this? Thank you __________________ Post your fuel consumption here Don't be shy, do it every time you fill your tank. Results will come soon.

19th March 2009, 14:16	#2
Greeners Moderator MG-ZTT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 19,798 Thanks: 161 Thanked 1,249 Times in 1,036 Posts	From memory C0580 is the big pink connector........ Not sure why you want to run a cable to the boot for the auto dip mirror. If the wires aren't at the bas of the drivers A pillar (most aren't) then run the wiring from the mirror down the passenger A pillar and connect it straight to the vacant cavities in the fuse box. I've done a couple this way, and it's the easiest way to do it. __________________ *David* Impecunity is the mother of ingenuity Useful how to's for common problems Car Of The Month Jan 2014 [SatNav Power Down] [Coolant Level] [SatNav Repair] [Diesel Non Starting] [Paint Codes] [Rear Light Seals] [Reversing Light Switch] [Bleeding Brakes][Sunroof Drain] [Early ZT's][Instrument Pack Diagnostics][ATC Diagnostics]

19th March 2009, 14:19	#3
magellan Avid contributor Rover 75 Club SE saloon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow G13 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	According to rave, it's a 3 pin black connector and connector names are embossed onto the palstic of the fusebox. That's exactly what I'm planning to do but which cavities ? __________________ Post your fuel consumption here Don't be shy, do it every time you fill your tank. Results will come soon. Last edited by magellan; 19th March 2009 at 14:37..

19th March 2009, 15:05	#4
Greeners Moderator MG-ZTT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 19,798 Thanks: 161 Thanked 1,249 Times in 1,036 Posts	You are correct, 580 is the black connector, the ADM uses the Pink connector for the live feed and the connector next to it (purple ?) for the reverse feed. I think the White / Yellow should be an empty and is cavity 8 The feed to the reversing lights will be in place, so you need to pick up the green/ brown. __________________ *David* Impecunity is the mother of ingenuity Useful how to's for common problems Car Of The Month Jan 2014 [SatNav Power Down] [Coolant Level] [SatNav Repair] [Diesel Non Starting] [Paint Codes] [Rear Light Seals] [Reversing Light Switch] [Bleeding Brakes][Sunroof Drain] [Early ZT's][Instrument Pack Diagnostics][ATC Diagnostics]

19th March 2009, 15:19	#5
magellan Avid contributor Rover 75 Club SE saloon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow G13 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, so let's recap before I go to the car: -the adm does not actually use the 580 connector (is Rave wrong?) -live feed on pink connector -reverse on pin 8 of the blue connector (next to pink). I think there are already white/yellow wires there (a thick and thin one) can I connect onto one of those ? -ground wherever __________________ Post your fuel consumption here Don't be shy, do it every time you fill your tank. Results will come soon.

19th March 2009, 15:29	#6
Greeners Moderator MG-ZTT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 19,798 Thanks: 161 Thanked 1,249 Times in 1,036 Posts	sounds about right, but I'd need to physically stick my head in the fuse box to be 100% correct. My wiring diagram shows connector 589 used, not 580. __________________ *David* Impecunity is the mother of ingenuity Useful how to's for common problems Car Of The Month Jan 2014 [SatNav Power Down] [Coolant Level] [SatNav Repair] [Diesel Non Starting] [Paint Codes] [Rear Light Seals] [Reversing Light Switch] [Bleeding Brakes][Sunroof Drain] [Early ZT's][Instrument Pack Diagnostics][ATC Diagnostics]

19th March 2009, 16:09	#7
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	Are you looking at the right connector? my copy of the wiring diagram also shows the White/Yellow in pin 8 of connector 589 - the Purple one, but only in cars fitted with the rain sensor. Last edited by raykay; 19th March 2009 at 16:14..

19th March 2009, 16:36	#8
magellan Avid contributor Rover 75 Club SE saloon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow G13 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, There is a mistake in the prefacelift rave. as it states C580 and it can't be. I checked the facelift rave and it states C589. I'll check my fusebox tomorrow morning and will let you know but the latest is likely to be correct. __________________ Post your fuel consumption here Don't be shy, do it every time you fill your tank. Results will come soon.

19th March 2009, 17:49	#9
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	Yours must be a early copy as mine is dated 2002 and it shows the White/Yellow it in connector 589, so it looks like they corrected long before the facelift was introduced.

21st March 2009, 22:40	#10
magellan Avid contributor Rover 75 Club SE saloon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Glasgow G13 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, I think I have a BMW mirror, provided by Les. The colour of the wires in the mirror are red, brown and grey. Here is how I connected it: -red into C0589, pin 4 (where already sits a green/brown wire) -grey into C589, pin 8 (where already sits a yellow/white wire) -brown into C589, pin 9 (where already sits a yellow/white wire) As it is now, it doesn't seem to be working. Did I do correctly? How can I test (I was not fully sure how to test)? Any help appreciated. Thank you. __________________ Post your fuel consumption here Don't be shy, do it every time you fill your tank. Results will come soon.