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Old 3rd June 2019, 09:07   #1
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Thankfully, the commemorations of the D-Day landings will overshadow this thugs visit to the United Kingdom and he'll be out of the way for the Trooping of the Colour - now someone may deem this political and close the thread.
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Old 3rd June 2019, 09:17   #2
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Thankfully, the commemorations of the D-Day landings will overshadow this thugs visit to the United Kingdom and he'll be out of the way for the Trooping of the Colour - now someone may deem this political and close the thread.
I can’t stand the bloke - to hear him speak reminds me of those stilted interviews with children on the TV who as a result of their genuine inexperience, due to their age, find it hard to be grammatically correct and coherent.

So to see this in the President of the United States is more than a little disturbing.
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As with most of us his origins both betray and dictate his manner, or lack thereof, and to an extent his methods.

He is entirely a product of the business world where he gained influence on the back of great wealth and was not subject to the need to bring subordinates along with him through careful management.

Although that may be his biggest failing it isn't really his fault. In his world patient diplomacy is seen as weakness and take-it-or-leave-it attitudes as a reasonable negotiating tool.

He chimes with a lot of his countrymen who are steeped in a philosophy similar to his own - what counts is winning and at any cost - provided you have the financial back-up.

His domestic record is enviable. No matter what you think of the man he is achieving what so many before have not. His many critics have valid reasons but in the real word of the snake pit you need focus.

To us, the result is more how you get there than the getting there. Maybe, to some extent, exposure to a gentler approach like ours will rub a few corners off. Hopefully.
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A state visit by any POTUS is an occasion which I think should be welcomed and treated with due respect. It is an opportunity for the UK to rise above the politics as has been done with state visits afforded to previous and some might say far more controversial figures. The images will be projected around the world and people will expect to see what we can do best on these occasions.
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Whether we love him or loathe him, he is where he is because of a democratic process.

He is the President of the US and therefore arguably the most powerful person on earth.

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Look at our own Representatives, can't get a job done between them.

Before we cast aspersions at others.

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Look at our own Representatives, can't get a job done between them.

Before we cast aspersions at others.

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Yes - good point - his odd behaviour apart - he has achieved an impressive list of achievements - not least getting the North Koreans to talk sensibly to the West.

Then he seems unafraid to take on the Chinese - something his predecessors avoided for idiotic reasons.

And his support for the U.K. (along with many other Nations) after the Novichok attack in Salisbury was very welcome.

He has also made the USA self-sufficient energy wise. The USA became a net exporter of energy in December 2018 for the first time in nearly 75 years. And CO2 emissions per capita fell to a 67 year low.

He certainly is a contradiction.

It is said he is not afraid of conflict - nor of walking away!

Little wonder then that (in his truly grating style) - he sets out the REAL issue(s) that our pathetic windbags cannot see because of their collective myopia.
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A state visit by any POTUS is an occasion which I think should be welcomed and treated with due respect. It is an opportunity for the UK to rise above the politics as has been done with state visits afforded to previous and some might say far more controversial figures. The images will be projected around the world and people will expect to see what we can do best on these occasions.
I sincerely hope your right Steve, but what little chance is there of that happening when JC, leader of the opposition is planning to speak and join in on the march tomorrow against Trump, as is his right to free speech. Yes the images are being seen around the world, even here in Kenya, it’s a media bonanza and how they love it if there is anything acrimonious to report. The upside is that the news is not about the B word
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I sincerely hope your right Steve, but what little chance is there of that happening when JC, leader of the opposition is planning to speak and join in on the march tomorrow against Trump, as is his right to free speech. Yes the images are being seen around the world, even here in Kenya, it’s a media bonanza and how they love it if there is anything acrimonious to report. The upside is that the news is not about the B word
Well JC is only good at protesting - actually dealing with reality and people outside the M25 “bubble” is not his forte. But then dealing with reality is hardly TM’s or VC’s strong point(s).

Trump is certainly divisive - a real marmite person.

He is most things I loath in a person - but we do have to be mindful that we (as a country) should “play the ball - not the player” - and treat what he represents with the respect deserved.
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Whether we love him or loathe him, he is where he is because of a democratic process.

He is the President of the US and therefore arguably the most powerful person on earth.

Andy.

Yep, the Russians democratically voted him in

The sooner the sexist, racist bigot is back on airforce 1 heading home the better.
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