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16th June 2019, 15:29 | #32 | |
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With more and more households having a car per person they have greater freedom to travel. Out of town and in some areas Public transport is not yet at the stage where the car is not a viable option. I don't know the solution but I would like to see if it is feasible, for those living and working in the same town or city to viably use public transport instead of a car. Thousands of people travel into town by public transport. macafee2 |
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So changing the protocol results in a change of behaviour? Don’t think so! All that changes is more attempts to get around it by subversive means. When did any rise in duty, that’s the level of the tax or the method of collection and charging, stop anyone driving or inhibit their use of the roads? I don’t remember any changes in density of road traffic to date other than continual crowding and charges have continually risen.
Tolls anyone? Try crossing at Dartford without prepayment, a letter arrives in a couple of days! The same could if necessary happen anywhere where ANPR operates. Further, the reluctance to repair damaged roads, especially those under Council responsibility, is a matter of sometime/never. As ever, taxes are the only thing certain so they have to be managed. It’s a question of understanding the rules and using them to advantage. It was thought that the abolition of the tax disc would enable tax dodgers to get away with it. The advent of publicly available info online put paid to that, good thing too. Just time your changes to best advantage. I’ve used SORN twice now and avoided duplicate charges, just a question of timing. It is not a hypothecated tax, in spite of the title, so is used across total government expenditure and as usual liable to pressing conditional grab.
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This is not personal - we are only debating after all. The problem with "freedom to travel" through multi-car ownership is that it could be considered indulgent. ps I am a multi-car owner through choice but would not be so if I lived in a built up area. When in London visiting family, I always go around on public transport. |
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That can be done in addition to ved not instead of
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Two people have been driving round here in an uninsured and untaxed (since September) car. By staying away from town they've managed to avoid ANPR since police cars are like hen's teeth out this way and I don't know how many are equipped. They also own another vehicle that's not insured or taxed, although that one doesn't seem to leave the layby where it's stashed. So I reported them using 101.
It appears they've been clamped and/or towed as the last sighting of one of them was on foot.
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......... and then add more cost to the collection system? Adding it onto the fuel would add nothing to the collection. The fuel way, will reduce the collection costs.
I can see the potential small increase in car ownership (as mss fears), because the payment of VED although DD has reduced that 'hardship' a little. At least (for the majority) the owners will have to pay as they use. If it was agreed that any increase would be used to offset the VED and maybe a little extra to pay for the infrastructure. The haulage (and us) firms ultimately, if implemented correctly would actually start to benefit, as roads would be better repaired, possibly replaced, leading to less wear and tear and hopefully faster (maybe too hopeful) roads.
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the bans, and fines for mileage diddling exist now, and have done for decades. Look how easy is it for us to give our cars a 'haircut', to maintain the integrity, a tachograph system as in haulage firms would need to be implemented, of which we then have to pay for the monitoring of. So we get less value for money.
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