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26th May 2017, 17:11 | #1 |
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Shocking suprise in Oxford today
I was in Oxford city centre today and there were a couple of Police men walking through town both with Automatic Weapons and body armour.
I have never seen this before in this country and it made me shudder. Don't get me wrong I am glad they are making a show but it makes you realise that the threat level we are on. |
26th May 2017, 17:23 | #2 |
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Sadly the worlds a changed place. Our traditional image of the smartly dressed Bobbie with his helmet, truncheon and whistle has been consigned to history.
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Used to it. My wife is from the far east, police armed with handguns and M16s, security guards in the banks were armed like Rambo, even armed guards on the door of fast food restaurants.
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26th May 2017, 17:36 | #4 |
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This was foretold many years ago...Did anyone listen..?
Watch the film 'Network'... Made in 1974....!! Here's a Clip worth watching...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE
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26th May 2017, 20:34 | #5 |
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As much as I agree with all the above I just find it shocking to see heavily armed police in Oxford city centre.
Even when we were at war with the IRA it was not this obvious. I had a friend on bomb disposal in the 80's and he often told me a lot of bombs were disposed of before the general public even noticed and we did not have armed police then. |
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I've been based in Oxford, (Bicester, Witney and Kidlington come to that) for varying periods with work so I get why you'd be shocked at the sight of police with guns. The first time they're needed you'll be glad they were there - semi-interesting stat, there have been fewer police firearms discharged in the whole of Northern Ireland (where all cops have guns) in the last five years that records are available than in England alone. From an Oxford perspective maybe. Northern Irish residents had soldiers and armed police and couldn't walk home from the pub without going through a checkpoint. |
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26th May 2017, 21:36 | #7 |
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Okay, I'm not an expert, but from what I can gather from history and articles I've read and seen throughout my life, this modern terrorism methodology is different. The IRA tended to plant bombs, and car and van bombs, but then leave so they didn't sacrifice themselves. They were also less scretive about who they were to a large extent. Didn't have immams calling for death and destruction to infidels, it was more a war of freedom as oppose to religious zealotry. Unfortunately for people loving with a different stance on these things, there is no way to rationalise with these extremists. Someone happy to blow themselves up in order to win the good grace of Allah and receive his 75 virgins in paradise, who believes this with every fiber of their being, is not someone you can "talk down" and in that situation, a gunshot may be the only thing to save the lives of hundreds, if not thousands of people. Sad, sad times.
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26th May 2017, 23:53 | #8 |
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I cycled through Oxford this evening, I too was surprised to see two armed police officers stood under Carfax tower.
I have to ask the question what are they there for? It can only be to make the public 'feel' safer, although it has the opposite effect on me. As if someone were carrying a bomb about their person, the first the police officers would know about it is when it's gone off. |
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In the beginning, with NI terrorists of all sides, there was an ideology driven by a common goal (latterly it has driven by power, drugs, ultimately money). Whereas there is a selfish aspect to suicide bombers of IS and the likes, ie to enter paradise and claim their virgins (I thought it was 40 ) whilst achieving some kind of honour here on earth. This is what makes it so dangerous and scary. Extremist cells seem to be independent, almost individual, almost 'self employed'! With NI terror groups, there were cells who were commanded, and those who acted 'rogue' generally were dealt with from within if they were not caught by the authorities. To give you another scary thought, all the police men I know, active and retired, have personal protection weapons.
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