Long lead time for a decent welder

[Comfortably Numb]

Looks solid enough, and you could always improve the kerbside view by grinding the welds a little, before undersealing. One of the most arbitrary rules in the MoT (to my mind) is the one about corrosion within 300mm of a suspension or seatbelt mounting point. (Surely the rear end of the Rover's sills must fail on this point?) I have a 4x4 which effectively has a separate chassis, but with the body welded to it. It has a deep outrigger section connecting from just behind the forward rear springhanger to the rear end of the sill, effectively the front of the wheelarch. The bottom of this outrigger commonly rusts out on these, while the adjacent 'chassis' and springhanger remain sound; however the vehicle receives a fail on the 300mm rule. The end of the sill, on mine, has passed MoT for the last 2 years with a piece of plastic glued over a large, rusty hole - to keep water out of the sill. It is just over 300mm from the spring-hanger, and the outrigger is sound!

[marinabrian]

You can grind away to your hearts content Andrew, however this won't remove the slag inclusions, undercutting, porosity, and lack of penetration.

In short it's absolute rubbish, and I wouldn't recommend anyone turning out work like that, it has been carried out with too much stickout, running backhand with the wire feed set too fast, and the current set too low, and the operator running too fast.

This is the problem, anyone can call themselves a welder, without the actual ability to weld.

Brian

[mbonwick]

That is very rough and ready welding. Real lack of fluidity in the weld pool caused by all the things Brian listed above.


Good welding fuses the two pieces of metal together...that's more like trying to stick them together with glue. And glue with random bits of NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- in at that.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by marinabrian

You can grind away to your hearts content Andrew, however this won't remove the slag inclusions, undercutting, porosity, and lack of penetration.

In short it's absolute rubbish, and I wouldn't recommend anyone turning out work like that, it has been carried out with too much stickout, running backhand with the wire feed set too fast, and the current set too low, and the operator running too fast.

This is the problem, anyone can call themselves a welder, without the actual ability to weld.

Brian

You are right Brian and I agree with you.

Over the years I have welded, in an amateurish way, lots of old cars.

My first attempts were total rubbish but, as the saying goes, practise makes perfect.-- ( At least not rubbish. ) Then I found MIG welders.
Welding vastly improved overnight.
The welds were no longer brittle and a cross section of the weld showed it to be round with the steel properly fused together.---

Almost like a miracle.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by marinabrian

You can grind away to your hearts content Andrew, however this won't remove the slag inclusions, undercutting, porosity, and lack of penetration.

In short it's absolute rubbish, and I wouldn't recommend anyone turning out work like that, it has been carried out with too much stickout, running backhand with the wire feed set too fast, and the current set too low, and the operator running too fast.

This is the problem, anyone can call themselves a welder, without the actual ability to weld.

Brian

Brian.---I note you did not get much response to your accurate assessment to that unsatisfactory bit of welding.

Either they don't agree or you have shamed them into hiding away in a corner somewhere.-------To the corner.---