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Old 26th July 2018, 08:56   #21
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Some interesting replies as I knew there would be, thank you.

NHS guidelines tell rapid response drivers to avoid parking their appliance in ''any place or position where it may, (wittingly or unwittingly) become blocked in by members of the public or their vehicles (commercial or private). To that end, where possible, avoid enclosed parking, and/or designated parking spaces where it is possible your rig will be unable to respond to emergency calls.''

Ambulance drivers I know will only use public parking if they have a clear exit in both forward and reverse gears. I am surprised by this paramedics choice of parking. Where crew require refreshment it would be more normal to stop at a petrol station than the entrance to a supermarket.

I don't think either side covered themselves in glory, I think the guy filming the argument made himself look like a pleb.
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Old 26th July 2018, 09:08   #22
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Mind we have the, now common, internet hero filming it and making the situation worse. He could have helped out but decided to do the opposite.
Whilst not condoning the "internet heroism" as there is a lot of complete drivel uploaded, had this not been filmed we would not be having this discussion. It brings it & situations like it, to the wider public. This can then hopefully bring about action to resolve & prevent it/them.

That said it would require the legislators to grow some round things & DO something....!!!!!!!!!!

As said the Emergency Services need looking after. I know I couldn't do their job.

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Old 26th July 2018, 09:11   #23
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Some interesting replies as I knew there would be, thank you.

NHS guidelines tell rapid response drivers to avoid parking their appliance in ''any place or position where it may, (wittingly or unwittingly) become blocked in by members of the public or their vehicles (commercial or private). To that end, where possible, avoid enclosed parking, and/or designated parking spaces where it is possible your rig will be unable to respond to emergency calls.''

Ambulance drivers I know will only use public parking if they have a clear exit in both forward and reverse gears. I am surprised by this paramedics choice of parking. Where crew require refreshment it would be more normal to stop at a petrol station than the entrance to a supermarket.

I don't think either side covered themselves in glory, I think the guy filming the argument made himself look like a pleb.
Thank you Sasha for clarifying the guidelines. When I worked in Hackney, it was not uncommon to see a panda car parked up on double yellow lines with the coppers grabbing a KFC or kebab and no parking ticket. Do the police also have similar guidelines, or should they be treated any different to Jo Public?

Personally, I am okay if the old bill don't get a ticket, anything which makes their tour of duty easier is fine by me
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Old 26th July 2018, 09:19   #24
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Whilst not condoning the "internet heroism" as there is a lot of complete drivel uploaded, had this not been filmed we would not be having this discussion. It brings it & situations like it, to the wider public. This can then hopefully bring about action to resolve & prevent it/them.

That said it would require the legislators to grow some round things & DO something....!!!!!!!!!!

As said the Emergency Services need looking after. I know I couldn't do their job.

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There are already mechanisms to prevent such events, the last thing that is needed is more legislators imposing more legislation.
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Old 26th July 2018, 09:24   #25
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why?
You would be giving them the right to park how they please for what ever reason. As someone whos' property is being damaged by someone because "they have the right to do it" I find your suggestion horrifying.

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I did NOT surggest that they can damage property . Maybe you should read the post before you make a comment .
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Old 26th July 2018, 09:47   #26
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I did NOT surggest that they can damage property . Maybe you should read the post before you make a comment .
I know you did not, this is what was said
by you All our emergency services should be exempt from all parking restrictions.


by me why?
You would be giving them the right to park how they please for what ever reason. As someone whos' property is being damaged by someone because "they have the right to do it" I find your suggestion horrifying.

I was merely pointing out that someone has the right to damage my land and so they do. Giving someone the right to do something needs serious consideration. Consider all parking restrictions, now allow emergency vehicles not on a shout to ignore them


if this is true, I copied this from the net
"As far as I understand it, you can park across someones dropped kerb if they are not in the garage/driveway. ie you can't block them in. This is classed as obstruction and you can be ticketed for it. If you are not blocking anyone in, then you can park across a kerb"



ok, you are parked in your drive, emergency vehicle not on a shout parks across your drive. when you go to leave you cannot get out, cannot find driver and are late for work, meeting, interview, court. You have made the emergency vehicle exempt from this restriction and so now have no right to complain.

perhaps I did not make my point well enough but I hope you can see a parallel, give people the ok to do something and one or more of them will, moral code, sense of right and wrong do not enter their mind.

with my example, do you still want "All our emergency services should be exempt from all parking restrictions"?

were your meaning all the time or only when on a shout?


you jumped down my throat but misunderstood my post

No I don't think in the op post a ticket should have been issued.

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Old 26th July 2018, 13:08   #27
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As a nurse I'm really interested in people's opinions on this.

''She said: 'Where would you like me to park? It won't go in a bay; I can't fit it. I'm not going to leave it in a disabled space. I've been on since 6.45am this morning; I've had nothing to drink and nothing to eat and now I would like to go to Tesco to get some water.''

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartanntp
ABSOLUTELY NOT.! I am aware the country is gone to the dogs, but that would mean that we all have alsol lost our minds, an emergency vehicle attending an emergency should be able to stop and park absolutely anywhere, period, the driver should not have to justify anything to anyone what so ever SO LONGas IT IS an EMERGENCY, i leave it to the lawyers to decide what constitutes an emergency in the UK.
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Old 26th July 2018, 18:04   #28
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I know you did not, this is what was said
by you All our emergency services should be exempt from all parking restrictions.


by me why?
You would be giving them the right to park how they please for what ever reason. As someone whos' property is being damaged by someone because "they have the right to do it" I find your suggestion horrifying.

I was merely pointing out that someone has the right to damage my land and so they do. Giving someone the right to do something needs serious consideration. Consider all parking restrictions, now allow emergency vehicles not on a shout to ignore them


if this is true, I copied this from the net
"As far as I understand it, you can park across someones dropped kerb if they are not in the garage/driveway. ie you can't block them in. This is classed as obstruction and you can be ticketed for it. If you are not blocking anyone in, then you can park across a kerb"



ok, you are parked in your drive, emergency vehicle not on a shout parks across your drive. when you go to leave you cannot get out, cannot find driver and are late for work, meeting, interview, court. You have made the emergency vehicle exempt from this restriction and so now have no right to complain.

perhaps I did not make my point well enough but I hope you can see a parallel, give people the ok to do something and one or more of them will, moral code, sense of right and wrong do not enter their mind.

with my example, do you still want "All our emergency services should be exempt from all parking restrictions"?

were your meaning all the time or only when on a shout?


you jumped down my throat but misunderstood my post

No I don't think in the op post a ticket should have been issued.

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How many Police ,Paramedics,Ambulance,Fire Service etc go joy riding ? How many of the fire Service etc take their work vehicles home with them ? If they are in your street they are there for a valid reason and thank God that they are .
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Old 26th July 2018, 20:11   #29
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How many Police ,Paramedics,Ambulance,Fire Service etc go joy riding ? How many of the fire Service etc take their work vehicles home with them ? If they are in your street they are there for a valid reason and thank God that they are .
what are you on about? Apart from this "How many Police ,Paramedics, Ambulance, Fire Service etc go joy riding ? " I don't know what your point is.

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Old 26th July 2018, 20:55   #30
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Another "photospy" at work!! They are lucky the Parking chap didn't stuff the device where the sun doesn't shine. Answer to the question is no. Chris S.
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