Should ambulances get parking tickets? - Page 2

klarzy · 25th July 2018, 22:11

Real life situation:

A cul-de-sac in Dagenham, mid 90's

Mr x drives home to find the entrance to the cul-de-sac blocked by an ambulance, he waits for several minutes and no one comes, no one is in the ambulance, no house doors are open, he gets mad and scrawls an angry message on the windscreen in felt tip.

He turns round and parks round the corner...

He walks back and puts his key in the front door to find 2 paramedics desperately trying to resuscitate his wife of 20 plus years who has had a heart attack.

Ambulances and fire tenders can park where they NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- well like when on a call...

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Groundsman Willie · 26th July 2018, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2

my daughter is the ambulance service.
if they were on a shout, without doubt I would say no.
What is the difference between the paramedic parking there, a BT engineer, a Breakdown truck or any commercial vehicle?

is this only an issue because it is an ambulance?

macafee2

The difference is, that a BT engineer isn't likely to get a literally life or death call that means he or she needs to be back on the road within seconds. So a BT engineer or a trucker can park around the corner and walk. A paramedic can park in the shop as far as I'm concerned

RPWC · 26th July 2018, 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundsman Willie

The difference is, that a BT engineer isn't likely to get a literally life or death call that means he or she needs to be back on the road within seconds. So a BT engineer or a trucker can park around the corner and walk. A paramedic can park in the shop as far as I'm concerned

My sentiments exactly Dave! Ian, I get where you are coming from, but this is different,as Dave says, the medic could get a shout and need to be away instantly. IMO, if a firefighter,police officer or paramedic ,on duty, goes to a shop for food/drink, they should be able to go straight to the front of any queue,to allow them to be ready for their next call.

paul d · 26th July 2018, 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by klarzy

Real life situation:

A cul-de-sac in Dagenham, mid 90's

Mr x drives home to find the entrance to the cul-de-sac blocked by an ambulance, he waits for several minutes and no one comes, no one is in the ambulance, no house doors are open, he gets mad and scrawls an angry message on the windscreen in felt tip.

He turns round and parks round the corner...

He walks back and puts his key in the front door to find 2 paramedics desperately trying to resuscitate his wife of 20 plus years who has had a heart attack.

Ambulances and fire tenders can park where they NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- well like when on a call...

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Any Emergency Services vehicle should be able to park anywhere when on a call & that should be law but when not "working" should have to comply with parking regulations.

Would it not be beyond the bounds of possibility for supermarkets like this to have a designated space for such situations. It would make sense, it could be near the short term "pick up drop off" point so these extremely worthwhile servants of the community were as close to their vehicle as possible should the need arise.

The parking person could then issue tickets to the no doubt, LOTS of inconsiderate people who would use the space, just like those that abuse the Disabled spaces.

Regards

Paul

RPWC · 26th July 2018, 07:14

There is a designated emergency vehicle a parking spot outside one of the entrances to the Gateshead Metricentre complex, so why not elsewhere too? Makes sense to me.

paul d · 26th July 2018, 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPWC

There is a designated emergency vehicle a parking spot outside one of the entrances to the Gateshead Metricentre complex, so why not elsewhere too? Makes sense to me.

To me it's problem solved.

To quote a well known TV presenter "How Hard Can It Be"

You will get folks saying that it should be for vehicles on a call, but if the Paramedics (who like the fire service do an amazing job) are in the store/center they would be on hand & deal with any emergency without hesitation i'm sure. Not walk past...!!!!!

Regards

Paul

Gate Keeper · 26th July 2018, 08:08

I couldn't get the commentary, but got the gist of it. At one level, the parking warden was doing his job and at another level, his employers showed common sense and this highlighted the need for further training and guidance. The emergency services have very few perks if any and it costs nothing for these wardens to turn a blind eye to them parking up illegally or not. If anyone disagrees, you are entitled to you opinion

Borg Warner · 26th July 2018, 08:13

In the example in the video, absolutely, rules are rules. Why should they be treated differently? The paramedic appears to have abused their position.

Mind we have the, now common, internet hero filming it and making the situation worse. He could have helped out but decided to do the opposite.

macafee2 · 26th July 2018, 08:49

Dave, Rich, thank you. Please don't think I was agreeing to the ticket, in part that's why I said my daughter works for the service. I wanted those that said the ambulance should not get a ticket to have a sensible reason which you have given and I agree with.

If the ambulance had not been ticketed "but the car behind had been" ( I know there was no car) there would have been an outcry by the driver. The parking attendant may have been given instructions, park on a double yellow, ticket. He may not have the authority to pick and choose.
Perhaps he could have contacted his supervisor for advice.

Even with what I have said above, I feel the ambulance should have been ignored.
Valid point has been made that if the paramedic needs to attend a shout the time spent no matter how small running across the car park could be the difference between life and death.

Perhaps good will come from this incident and retailers and parking companies will voluntarily agree not to ticket emergency vehicles on a shout or not. Drivers of emergency vehicles in similar circumstance will agree to park sensibly. Sensibly.. not parking blocking a junction, the road so no one can get pass. Common sense

macafee2

macafee2 · 26th July 2018, 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by klarzy

Real life situation:

A cul-de-sac in Dagenham, mid 90's

Mr x drives home to find the entrance to the cul-de-sac blocked by an ambulance, he waits for several minutes and no one comes, no one is in the ambulance, no house doors are open, he gets mad and scrawls an angry message on the windscreen in felt tip.

He turns round and parks round the corner...

He walks back and puts his key in the front door to find 2 paramedics desperately trying to resuscitate his wife of 20 plus years who has had a heart attack.

Ambulances and fire tenders can park where they NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- well like when on a call...

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I agree but in this situation, they were not on a shout.

I wonder how the chap in your example felt once he found out why the ambulance was there.

macafee2

25th July 2018, 22:11	#11
klarzy This is my second home none but not gone Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: March, Cambs Posts: 16,437 Thanks: 894 Thanked 4,247 Times in 3,025 Posts	Real life situation: A cul-de-sac in Dagenham, mid 90's Mr x drives home to find the entrance to the cul-de-sac blocked by an ambulance, he waits for several minutes and no one comes, no one is in the ambulance, no house doors are open, he gets mad and scrawls an angry message on the windscreen in felt tip. He turns round and parks round the corner... He walks back and puts his key in the front door to find 2 paramedics desperately trying to resuscitate his wife of 20 plus years who has had a heart attack. Ambulances and fire tenders can park where they NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- well like when on a call... end of subject __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]….All praise Bananaswan….

26th July 2018, 07:14	#15
RPWC This is my second home 75 model car Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 20,177 Thanks: 4,008 Thanked 5,083 Times in 3,114 Posts	There is a designated emergency vehicle a parking spot outside one of the entrances to the Gateshead Metricentre complex, so why not elsewhere too? Makes sense to me. __________________ Cheers. Rich…

26th July 2018, 08:49	#19
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,928 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Dave, Rich, thank you. Please don't think I was agreeing to the ticket, in part that's why I said my daughter works for the service. I wanted those that said the ambulance should not get a ticket to have a sensible reason which you have given and I agree with. If the ambulance had not been ticketed "but the car behind had been" ( I know there was no car) there would have been an outcry by the driver. The parking attendant may have been given instructions, park on a double yellow, ticket. He may not have the authority to pick and choose. Perhaps he could have contacted his supervisor for advice. Even with what I have said above, I feel the ambulance should have been ignored. Valid point has been made that if the paramedic needs to attend a shout the time spent no matter how small running across the car park could be the difference between life and death. Perhaps good will come from this incident and retailers and parking companies will voluntarily agree not to ticket emergency vehicles on a shout or not. Drivers of emergency vehicles in similar circumstance will agree to park sensibly. Sensibly.. not parking blocking a junction, the road so no one can get pass. Common sense macafee2 Last edited by macafee2; 26th July 2018 at 08:52..

26th July 2018, 08:08	#17
Gate Keeper This is my second home 4X4 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nairobi Posts: 20,067 Thanks: 8,286 Thanked 7,017 Times in 4,160 Posts	I couldn't get the commentary, but got the gist of it. At one level, the parking warden was doing his job and at another level, his employers showed common sense and this highlighted the need for further training and guidance. The emergency services have very few perks if any and it costs nothing for these wardens to turn a blind eye to them parking up illegally or not. If anyone disagrees, you are entitled to you opinion

26th July 2018, 08:13	#18
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	In the example in the video, absolutely, rules are rules. Why should they be treated differently? The paramedic appears to have abused their position. Mind we have the, now common, internet hero filming it and making the situation worse. He could have helped out but decided to do the opposite.