Scottish independence.

[Ros3]

Originally Posted by FLYER

careful mate , humour not well thought of on here

I know mate but I thought it was so funny that I couldn't resist.

[FLYER]

Originally Posted by Ros3

I know mate but I thought it was so funny that I couldn't resist.

made me laugh.......

[coolcat]

Kevin Bridges chatting to a Glaswegian taxi driver on bbc1, anyone you know Goerge?

[FLYER]

Originally Posted by coolcat

Kevin Bridges chatting to a Glaswegian taxi driver on bbc1, anyone you know Goerge?

Know him from the ranks but thats it Jeff.

Btw that was one funny show.

[coolcat]

Originally Posted by FLYER

Know him from the ranks but thats it Jeff.

Btw that was one funny show.

It was indeed George, I enjoyed

[Roverite]

Originally Posted by Woof25

To quoteReb Butler " Frankly my dear I don't give a damn" if scotland wishes to set sail for new seas then vote and get it over please, if the south could could vote separation would be guaranteed I suspect. It is frankly getting boring hearing people saying my lots better than your lot so sucks boo and let's throw stones at the nasty parliament. Just my opinion of course others may differ.

Without wishing to offend, you are a Londoner living in what Boris calls "the Capital of the World" and regardless of the Scottish vote, many Englishmen actually do feel like throwing stones at Parliament.

I am a Londoner, born within the sounds of Bow Bells (although they weren't ringing at the time because we were at war with Germany), but I have also lived in Essex, Surrey, Hertforshire, Worcestershire, Shropshire (currently) and Cornwall for about 20 years. The further out you go from London, the more resentment you will find, even starting in the outlying parts of Essex. There is a feeling that London dominates and draws everything into London and that the outlying parts are fed a few crumbs now and again to keep them quiet.

Cornwall, for example has one of the lowest wage rates in the UK, but house prices are sky high because 'up country' people buy up the properties with their wealth, either for retirement, or as holiday homes. Even 'National wage rate' jobs in Cornwall, don't get the added incentive of London Weighting. Services in the outlying areas are constantly being centralised for 'efficiency', but that means that hospitals are miles away from the majority of the inhabitants. Police custody suites are centralised, meaning that a prisoner has to be taken 30+ miles to be charged; this just doesn't happen in London. London is lit up like a Christmas tree at night and has the highest pollution rate in the EU, but Boris wants us all to get out of our cars, not just Londoners.

Parliament introduced 24 hour drinking and MPs enjoy cheap booze in the house, but they raise the alcohol duty to deter the binge drinkers, which often means that the occasional drinker now can't afford the odd pint.

I know there is no simple answer and that there will always be inequality, but the UK has become very unequal over the last 30 years and that is why a lot of us want to throw stones. I have no political allegiance, but I would like to see a bit more common, and I mean common, sense, instead of the institutianalised leadership we currently have. At the time of the MPs expenses scandal, it was said that 'they just don't get it', and this is the same. They talk the talk, but they just don't understand.

I apologise for highjacking the Scottish referendum debate and for this rant, but I do think it is relevant to some of the posts on here.

Roverite.

[lady zed]

Originally Posted by wraymond

More than anything else that irks me is the fact that in the event of a 'Yes' vote the aftermath will affect the remaining UK immeasurably more than it ever could an Independent Scotland. The rest of the UK has been denied any say whatsoever at any level and that fact has never even been allowed to be discussed on any formal media.
It amounts to a few hundred votes being able to overrule a phenomenal majority, and potentially involve a total and massive national change to the UK for possibly hundreds of years to come.

So you think the rest of the UK should be allowed to decide whether they want to keep us? Like a pet?

Scotland's future has been dictated by England for hundreds of years already. And I really hope that does change.

[FLYER]

Originally Posted by scooterchick

So you think the rest of the UK should be allowed to decide whether they want to keep us? Like a pet?

Scotland's future has been dictated by England for hundreds of years already. And I really hope that does change.

Oh yer a fiesty wee wummin so ye ur.......

[topman]

Not long now, anyone confident of the result had a bet yet?

[Trevor1975]

Originally Posted by scooterchick

So you think the rest of the UK should be allowed to decide whether they want to keep us? Like a pet?

Scotland's future has been dictated by England for hundreds of years already. And I really hope that does change.

The UK is a union, not a English led dictatorship, there are Scottish MPs in Westminster.

If the Yes vote wins, you'll find a lot of support that has been taken for granted will be gone. you cant have your cake and eat it.

If more than 50% of Scottish voters decide 'Yes', then god help all of us. But as Cameron said, or implied... the 'please stay' options will finish and England, Wales and Northern Ireland will not support Scotland or help if and when it all goes wrong.

Its not up to me... but from a logical point of view it makes no sense to separate - Scotland has a very strong identity and culture, and still will have either way.

If you think the London based politicians are bad, what makes anyone think the Edinburgh based independant ones will be any better???

I was in Saltcoats last week, lovely place, great people to work with etc... in a few weeks I'll be back in Glasgow - wish me luck.

I wish Scotland and the Scottish peolpe all the best, but I hope that GB isn't broken up for all the wrong reasons...