House Moves Asbestos GRRRRR!!

[neilb740]

Originally Posted by macafee2

Did they use asbestos in Artex years ago?

macafee2

Artex, floor tiles, false ceiling tiles, pipe lagging, wall board, coragated roof pannels, boiler insulation. It was everywhere!
If you ever changed fuse wire in the old fuseboards, remember the white cloth type stuff the fusewire ran across, yep, asbestos.
Horible stuff if disturbed and becomes airborn.
We are going to be finding it for a long time yet. It was used for 150 years!

[humphshumphs]

Asbestos, what-ever colour, is not good.

Just before Christmas 2015, we had solar panels fitted to the roof of the company I work for, problem was, the guys that fitted them didn't care and just drilled the roof.... Yup it was asbestos.

Survey that the solar guys did stated asbestos, we had signs up, but still they drilled.

As of end of June this year, we finally had the building cleaned, re-roofed and given a certificate to say that it was safe.

Still, however, fighting with insurance companies... oh well.

Bottom line, is dont mess with Asbestos. Get specialists in to check and remove if needed.

[MDMH757]

Originally Posted by Rev Jules

Bleddy Asbestos , buyer had a survey done on our house and the report came back suspect asbestos, even the report on the place we are buying reported suspect asbestos, I think every surveyors report on a residential building will come back with suspect asbestos, are they covering their backs because they are not qualified to identify this product, so know we are having to fork out money to state the bleddy obvious we have no asbestos.
Are there any people on here who have had a survey done on properties and have had the infamous suspect asbestos on it.

Rev

Hi Jules,

Have they identified what type of Asbestos Containing Material (ACMs), ie cement, Insulating board, lagging, floor tiles?
I am BOHS P405 qualified (Managing Asbestos in buildings), and come across asbestos daily in my job managing void & derelict properties for a government agency.
I agree with what some say, there is no "safe" asbestos, Chrysotile (white) is the most common, with Amosite (Brown) & Crocidolite (blue) sometimes mixed with it or solely in products on their own. They are all bad!!!
ACM products have varying degrees of asbestos and therefore some is notifiable & should be removed by a Licensed Contractor see http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a0.pdf

This HSE document explains the essentials, what is licensed & what is notifiable. If you need further information i recommend reading parts of HSG264: The Survey Guide and Control of Asbestos Regulations (CAR2012) - Just google them, free pdf download!!

Both documents are comprehensive and will give you answers to any questions you may have as they cover Asbestos in Domestic Properties as well as commercial/public buildings.

If you need any further info, let me know

Maurice

[KWIL]

Or contact:-
Asbestos Removal Contractors Association (ARCA)


www.arca.org.uk

[Dallas]

Originally Posted by Rev Jules

so know we are having to fork out money to state the bleddy obvious we have no asbestos.

Rev

Rev, How do you know your property does not contain asbestos, was it built after the year 2000?

If it wasn't, what year was it built?

[Rev Jules]

Originally Posted by Dallas

Rev, How do you know your property does not contain asbestos, was it built after the year 2000



If it wasn't, what year was it built?

Hi Dallas.


Granted it was a bold statement on my behalf, built 1951 we have lived here for 49 years, the people who are buying our house have got a mortgage from NationWide, so I presume they would have commissioned the survey, and have read the report and seen nothing wrong otherwise they would have rejected the mortgage,
Any way we have someone coming in on Tuesday to have a look.

Rev

[madeupname]

We are having a lot of asbestos removal taking place at work and I had a quick chat with one of the blokes. He said asbestos was used in window putty, wall plaster, and lots of other places too. I think we are all living with it tbh.
As others have said, if it isn't disintegrating and becoming airborne it isn't a problem. But it needs dealing with by professionals.

[Dallas]

Originally Posted by Rev Jules

Hi Dallas.


Granted it was a bold statement on my behalf, built 1951 we have lived here for 49 years, the people who are buying our house have got a mortgage from NationWide, so I presume they would have commissioned the survey, and have read the report and seen nothing wrong otherwise they would have rejected the mortgage,
Any way we have someone coming in on Tuesday to have a look.

Rev

Hi Rev, Its common practice these days to have asbestos surveys carried out, especially on pre 2000 residential properties. You will be surprised by the amount of people who are actually living with asbestos in their homes and dont even know about it, asbestos was commonly used/mixed with other materials back in the day.

You dont really hear much about asbestos not until you are faced with the question 'Does my home have Asbestos', this is when you get a crash-course on the stuff by means of a survey. Most asbestos materials are safe as long as it doesn't get disturbed, or certain building materials that contain asbestos are not degrading.

Floor tiles that contain asbestos were commonly used in the 1950's & 60's, our home is a 1952 build and we have the vinyl asbestos containing floor tiles in the lounge, kitchen and bathroom. All our guttering and downpipes were white asbestos cement, we had it all replaced with nice shiny UPVC. We also had cement asbestos boards on the roof under the eaves, also under the porch.

Internal asbestos insulating boards and artex is the most common from the 60's, around the fireplace, airing cupboard, boxing in around pipes, it was used everywhere.

If your survey highlights asbestos is present in/on either home, it doesn't necessarily mean big bucks. As long as its just the more common white cement asbestos mix, and is not degrading or damaged. Do you have any outbuildings with the corrugated sheets, or guttering that looks like the common asbestos cement type?

[Teflon]

We have an old wooden shed with a corrugated asbestos roof. I've always assumed (rightly or wrongly) that it's of no harm whatsoever all the time it's in one piece and have so far left well alone. Obviously, when \ if we remove the shed some professional advice would need to be sought.

Are my assumptions correct?

Cliff

[MDMH757]

Hi Cliff,
As long as it's not damaged (drilled, cut etc) it will be fine.... I manage void & derelict buildings for a government agency... We generally de-risk the building by having a survey carried out, I then write an Asbestos Management Plan (amp) and action high risk items... Debris, damaged items removed.
Recently done amp for part of Stockport college which we manage for our client.... Approx 540 separate items of ACMs.... As it appears Asbestos insulation board was used in place of plasterboard????

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