Curtailing Pensioner Benefits

[Snetty]

Originally Posted by trikey

I agree with that to a point, when I had 5 children at home, all under the age of 12 I would have been 30% a week better off by not working!

Did I stop work and claim dole? Did I hell, I was brought up to work.

The benefit system itself needs a major overhaul, where no household relying on benefits can accumulate 95 percent of the net income of an equivalent household on minimum wage. The system as it is does nothing to make work pay.
With the money saved there would be no need to cut any benefits of pensioners who have done their bit ft or the country.
However to do this we need a parliament that actually has the interests of the country as it's focus and the backbone to see the reforms through.

[topman]

Originally Posted by Snetty

The benefit system itself needs a major overhaul, where no household relying on benefits can accumulate 95 percent of the net income of an equivalent household on minimum wage. The system as it is does nothing to make work pay.

I think very similar rules already exist under Universal Credit.

[topman]

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/gover...016-03-16#main

Here's a website with some facts, a couple of years out of date but still accurate at the time. The figures are a bit of a surprise?

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by Snetty

The benefit system itself needs a major overhaul, where no household relying on benefits can accumulate 95 percent of the net income of an equivalent household on minimum wage. The system as it is does nothing to make work pay.

Exactly! I was in a bit of a panic entering retirement, due to the drastic reduction of income. I needn't have worried, what I found was not having to work saved a considerable amount of my outgoings and more time available to me to enable me to find ways to save money. Those not working, have a similar amount of time available to them, to make the best of their income.



Going to work needs to be made worthwhile, there has to be a worthwhile difference in income.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by trikey

I agree with that to a point, when I had 5 children at home, all under the age of 12 I would have been 30% a week better off by not working!

Did I stop work and claim dole? Did I hell, I was brought up to work.

That reminds me of my late mother when her health was not good and her three youngsters in their thirties, including myself, were trying to get her to stop working and just enjoy the rest of her life. She just said "we always work".

[MSS]

I have spent a fair bit of time thinking about the issue of the ageing population and the challenges faced by the young since I took retirement last August. I have to confess that I am more sympathetic of the headline item than people younger than myself may expect.

Like others, I feel that we need to have an open and honest debate about the type of society that we want in the future. The key features of my desires would be as follow:

1. Everyone between the ages of 18 and 65 will be required to work and paid a statutory wage that provides a reasonable quality of life. Those who cannot find suitable employment will be given work that needs doing e.g. repairing roads, cleaning public places etc...... The only exceptions will be people physically unable to work.

1a. Anyone not wishing to work in accordance with #1 will be terminated.

2. All businesses will have to pay the above "reasonable living wage"

3. Reward packages (including salaries, bonuses, shares, income from property, investments etc.....) will be capped at 3 times the above wage over which tax will be charged at 100%.

4. Those over the age of 65 will be considered "retired" and paid a lower amount than the above wage that guarantees a reasonably living standard taking account of the lower outgoings of a retired person - the pension.

5. At the age of 60, everyone will be offered the option of signing up to being gracefully "switched off" at the age of 80, or 75 if suffering from incurable illness, in return for an enhanced "pension" that would include a one-off payment at 60 sufficient to purchase and run a socialist standard 4+ litre V8 for 5 years.

6. All public servants (politicians) will be paid the statutory living wage and treated with respect as well as being bestowed with honorary titles at retirement.

Any supporters, Comrades?

[macafee2]

There is no easy answer to this. what ever happens some will be happy and some wont

macafee2

[MSS]

Originally Posted by macafee2

There is no easy answer to this. what ever happens some will be happy and some wont

macafee2

Excellent - a firm an decisive position there from Ian!

[Rev Jules]

RANT!!!

When will this government start thinking about stopping 14.5 Billion being sent abroad for stupid projects and filling presidential personal bank accounts, that could be put to good use in this country. I didn’t spend 50 years working, saving into pension schemes, paying taxes and National Insurance, buying our house, (Mortgage Free), for some jumped jobs worth who think they are hard done, try and take away some of my benefits, may I suggest they stop spending on Credit cards, and wanting things now instead of saving up, they just might be able to have what I have worked hard for. So don’t tell me to give up some of the things I feel I am entitled too .
As for immigration don’t go there, overcrowded schools, overcrowded hospitals, lack of housing, because of this country becoming over populated.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by Rev Jules

RANT!!!

When will this government start thinking about stopping 14.5 Billion being sent abroad for stupid projects and filling presidential personal bank accounts, that could be put to good use in this country. I didn’t spend 50 years working, saving into pension schemes, paying taxes and National Insurance, buying our house, (Mortgage Free), for some jumped jobs worth who think they are hard done, try and take away some of my benefits, may I suggest they stop spending on Credit cards, and wanting things now instead of saving up, they just might be able to have what I have worked hard for. So don’t tell me to give up some of the things I feel I am entitled too .
As for immigration don’t go there, overcrowded schools, overcrowded hospitals, lack of housing, because of this country becoming over populated.

Rev Jules - does this mean you would not sign up to my proposed "graceful switch-off" programme in return for a V8 for 5 years?