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Old 27th March 2019, 22:44   #21
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I just starting driving the 6-speed manual Maxima today and the automatic transmissioned big 4x4 truck will just sit for the summer (unless some heavy work happens along).

I usually just do a quick clutch dip/release as I slip the gearshift into neutral when approaching stop signs and red lights. Been doing this for years. Brake pads are cheap compared to clutch components and labour (mine or anyone else's). Trying to rev match and downshift without the clutch will only chew up synchro rings. That is for straight cut gears in Formula Fords. That is not what synchromesh gearboxes were designed for - believe it or not.

BUT, even if I downshifted through every gear for engine braking at every stop sign and red light, I still wouldn't burn up a clutch in 6 months - or even 6 years. I just like smooth starts and stops.

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Old 28th March 2019, 20:07   #22
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Try driving on snow using the 'Braking' method!

Ill stick to going through the gears thanks.
Horses for courses.------If you use your brakes on snow or ice you are more than likely to end up in the ditch.
PS. Didn't know it was still snowing where you are.----


PS. Using the hand brake gently in slippery conditions can sometimes help though.

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Old 28th March 2019, 20:53   #23
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Or even engine braking.----


What I don't understand is why R75 drivers want to use the gears to slow down when they know how short the slave cylinder life is in the best of circumstances.---

Cost so much to put right.

Brake pads are cheap and easy to replace.

GEARS ARE FOR GOING----BRAKES ARE FOR SLOWING.

Slowing down using the gears in the old days was because the brakes were usually rubbish. Not needed any more except in special circumstances.

C'mon, get with it lads.--

mmmmm I've heard that expression before.
different drivers different use of the gear box.
FWIW there are signs at the top of some hills advising to use a low gear
for descending the hill. Do you agree this is appropriate?
Steep and particularly long hills with bends are not the kindest things
for some discs and pads. I hate to think how hot they get on some peoples cars.
I appreciate your train of thought about the number of times you depress the clutch. I'll sit on the fence as to weather it justifies not engine breaking.

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Old 29th March 2019, 12:59   #24
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mmmmm I've heard that expression before.
different drivers different use of the gear box.
FWIW there are signs at the top of some hills advising to use a low gear
for descending the hill. Do you agree this is appropriate?
Steep and particularly long hills with bends are not the kindest things
for some discs and pads. I hate to think how hot they get on some peoples cars.
I appreciate your train of thought about the number of times you depress the clutch. I'll sit on the fence as to wether it justifies not engine braking.

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( Especially if you are unlucky enough to get brake failure on the way down. )---
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Old 29th March 2019, 13:25   #25
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When I was learning to drive in the early 70's my instructor told me to slow down using gears. Let the engine do the work.
I think I learnt in a Cadet. Or something similar. My uncle had a salesroom/garage so I used them, and I passed at the second attempt just before the cost of lessons went up to 50p
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Old 29th March 2019, 17:04   #26
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PS. Using the hand brake gently in slippery conditions can sometimes help though.
Using a 75 or ZT handbrake gently.........hmm that will be on five clicks then

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P.S. Trikey used to live in Blackhill Consett, it snows in July there
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Old 29th March 2019, 17:18   #27
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Handbrake - now that is something that works really well on my car! With ABS, you are wiser to use the brakes in slippery conditions - I spun my first ABS car-an Audi A4, - on frost, -by trying to engine brake down a slight slope. Next time, I used the brakes, and it slowed in a straight line, and quicker. 4 ABS braking wheels will stop you more safely than engine braking on the front wheels (unless you are good and sensitive with the handbrake, to stop the back overtaking the front).
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Old 29th March 2019, 20:32   #28
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Using a 75 or ZT handbrake gently.........hmm that will be on five clicks then

Brian

P.S. Trikey used to live in Blackhill Consett, it snows in July there
I always thought the handbrake on our car was for parking up, not for slowing down? Have you tried using the handbrake for slowing down?
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Old 29th March 2019, 21:28   #29
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I always thought the handbrake on our car was for parking up, not for slowing down? Have you tried using the handbrake for slowing down?
Yes and it doesnt,,,in fact it dont even hold it on the level.
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Old 29th March 2019, 21:29   #30
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Using a 75 or ZT handbrake gently.........hmm that will be on five clicks then

Brian

P.S. Trikey used to live in Blackhill Consett, it snows in July there

And here. Why ARE our handbrakes so {naughty word}? Mine's ALL been replaced, and it's still just acceptable. My parents' 2006 Focus has about 90k on the clock, not sure the handbrake has ever been done, and one notch will have you spinning in circles
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