Diesel ban, Bristol

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Having started to look into this further, the council’s own studies into the current traffic show that 71% of the vehicles entering the zone meet the standards and wouldn’t pay. So the improvement in air quality will come from 29% of vehicles. They want to improve NOx.
A euro 3, KV6 will have to pay, but a euro 6 diesel won’t.
Which emits the most NOx?
www.eea.europa.eu/publications/explaining-road-transport-emissions
The EU says the Euro 6 diesel.

Exactly! Nox is a bigger killer and certainly the top dog where other lung related medical issues are concerned such as asthma.

When diesels became a bigger seller than petrol one would have thought the pendulem would have swung away from petrol. However, because of the Kyoto (and later) agreements, I guess they still feel the need for a CO2 deduction approach. But as you point out in your quoted percentages they won't be very successful environmentally but the ££££'s will still roll in.

Kev

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by Mogodon

I am also in Wellingborough and don't understand why they increased the spaces in the multi-storey as since the day it was opened the open air top floor has never been used and closed off.

Probably have water ingress issues when it rains?

Kev

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by grivas

I myself think that exhaust emissions are responsible for serious health problems and I can follow the logic behind the ban, however it may well have the effect of further putting the final nails into the coffin that most city centres have become, time will tell, after all we are living in unprecedented times, I am not sure what that really means?.

It means "we are living in unprecedented times" ergo push through unwarranted, insane or unpopular projects that provide a fast buck for certain "elites".

Kev

[Lancpudn]

Oxford have provisionally given the Green light for a ZEZ (Zero Emission Zone) Vehicles not meeting the required emission standards of Euro 4 petrol & Euro 6 diesel will have to pay £10/day. https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/lat...ched-in-august





Blimey! Peugeot now want to go Combustion-Free by 2023 now. https://www.electrive.com/2021/03/12...-free-by-2023/

[genpk]

i assume these councillors all realize all there fresh food, delivery goods for shops in the city, public works machinery etc all use diesel!!
The councillors are not going to know what hit them when they cant get there tax payer funded lunches anymore!
Just get involved in local politics and vote them out- easy fixed

[torque2me]

Originally Posted by genpk

i assume these councillors all realize all there fresh food, delivery goods for shops in the city, public works machinery etc all use diesel!!
The councillors are not going to know what hit them when they cant get there tax payer funded lunches anymore!
Just get involved in local politics and vote them out- easy fixed

Councillors only play a small part in things and, yes, you can vote them out. However, you can't vote out the non-elected (by vote of the local people) executive and cronies. These are the ones that make policy and see off any "elected" councillor as they could be in situ for 35 years.

Kev

[genpk]

i read an interesting article the other day regarding the worlds lithium supplies.
It was estimated by the US geological survey body that we have enough lithium present world wide for 350 years- at the present rate of consumption.
however if we suppose current vehicle production was achieved for ev cars -known lithium supplies would only last 17 years!!
And the govt’s of the world are pinning there emissions targets on this technology???!!!!

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by genpk

i read an interesting article the other day regarding the worlds lithium supplies.
It was estimated by the US geological survey body that we have enough lithium present world wide for 350 years- at the present rate of consumption.
however if we suppose current vehicle production was achieved for ev cars -known lithium supplies would only last 17 years!!
And the govt’s of the world are pinning there emissions targets on this technology???!!!!

Do you have a link?

[genpk]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Do you have a link?

Think it was openly available on Wikipedia.
Was as a result of somone asking the question re Lithium resources worldwide.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by genpk

Think it was openly available on Wikipedia.
Was as a result of somone asking the question re Lithium resources worldwide.

Cool thanks.
I was wondering as Lithium mining isn’t exactly ‘green’ and I was wondering how the greens rationalise that.