Urgent - No Drive - Page 3

Simon.h · 9th June 2011, 16:48

Have you checked your gear lever cables at the gearbox end?
These are a push on ball joint, may be 1 worn and popped off.

Starman · 9th June 2011, 19:27

Simon lipped me to it. I had the same in an old Renault and the linkage had failed between selector and gearbox. A nut n bolt had worked loose so the sector rod was slipping over a spline.
Are you actually getting gears Jack? Hard to tell as you won't have any resistance from the engine or wheels!
Hope it's an easy cheap fix.
Regards. Steve.

Jakg · 9th June 2011, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starman

Are you actually getting gears Jack? Hard to tell as you won't have any resistance from the engine or wheels!

I'm getting limited amounts of drive in low gears - i.e. in 1st at the biting point you can feel the car tense, same in reverse, but in 5th you don't really get it so much.

Sorry for not replying to half the posts - I'm still getting the hang of car mechanics (before I bought the ZT i'd never even changed a headlight bulb before!), and I've been having my Uni exams. Next week me and my Dad can crack through all the suggestions and have a look.

Jakg · 10th June 2011, 12:54

My Dad found that the master cylinder was under the battery box and some clip might of come out so he asked me to remove the battery box so we could look.

He had a reach inside and appears to of found the gear selector cables - and it doesn't seem like it's engaging any gear properly. Could this be the problem?

Simon.h · 10th June 2011, 13:03

I dont get it! The master cylinder is just infront/above the brake petal.

Jakg · 10th June 2011, 18:58

Perhaps I was a bit over-zealous there...

Jacked it up, the wheel gets progressive easier to turn the higher gear I select. It also spins easier with the clutch in. This suggests that at the very least something is going on down there.

My Dad's new helpful suggestion... "inertia flywheel" whatever that is.

COLVERT · 10th June 2011, 20:43

As stated in previous posts. The center of the driven plate has separated from the outer friction part.
It will not be the flywheel or the slave cylinder or master cylinder.
This sort of damage can be caused by the plain bearing in the end of the crankshaft being worn and allowing the gearbox input shaft to move. This can cause misalignment and vibration of the driven plates steel center causing metal fatigue and failure.

( PS. Or trying to pull away like an F1 driver !! Lol. )

FrenchMike · 10th June 2011, 21:19

Incredible but possible :

From Luk doc

Plate.jpg

Mike

mh007 · 10th June 2011, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by COLVERT

As stated in previous posts. The center of the driven plate has separated from the outer friction part.
It will not be the flywheel or the slave cylinder or master cylinder.
This sort of damage can be caused by the plain bearing in the end of the crankshaft being worn and allowing the gearbox input shaft to move. This can cause misalignment and vibration of the driven plates steel center causing metal fatigue and failure.

( PS. Or trying to pull away like an F1 driver !! Lol. )

I disagree with you when you say "it will not be the Flywheel"

Dual Mass Flywheels can completely fail causing a total loss of drive & also produce "jingling" or "clattering" noises.

I have seen this for myself on a few motors in the past.

Jakg · 13th June 2011, 14:04

Good news - garage picked my car up for further diagnosis.

Bad news - in the process of picking it up, they managed to put a massive scratch on the bottom and front of the bumper, and seem to of cracked it a little as well. Not happy.

9th June 2011, 16:48	#21
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9th June 2011, 19:27	#22
Starman Posted a thing or two 03 CDTi Tourer Conn SE auto Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Simon lipped me to it. I had the same in an old Renault and the linkage had failed between selector and gearbox. A nut n bolt had worked loose so the sector rod was slipping over a spline. Are you actually getting gears Jack? Hard to tell as you won't have any resistance from the engine or wheels! Hope it's an easy cheap fix. Regards. Steve. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

10th June 2011, 13:03	#25
Simon.h This is my second home Previously owned- MG ZT V6 160 Y plate Lpg, MG ZT 190 2003 In Rare Celestial Factory Ordered Lpg MG Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Calne Posts: 4,531 Thanks: 8 Thanked 116 Times in 108 Posts	I dont get it! The master cylinder is just infront/above the brake petal. __________________ Previously owned- MG ZT V6 160 Y plate Lpg, MG ZT 190 2003 In Rare Celestial Factory Ordered Lpg MG ZT 190 2004 lpg

10th June 2011, 20:43	#27
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	As stated in previous posts. The center of the driven plate has separated from the outer friction part. It will not be the flywheel or the slave cylinder or master cylinder. This sort of damage can be caused by the plain bearing in the end of the crankshaft being worn and allowing the gearbox input shaft to move. This can cause misalignment and vibration of the driven plates steel center causing metal fatigue and failure. ( PS. Or trying to pull away like an F1 driver !! Lol. ) Last edited by COLVERT; 10th June 2011 at 20:45..

10th June 2011, 12:54	#24
Jakg This is my second home N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 6,867 Thanks: 0 Thanked 397 Times in 302 Posts	My Dad found that the master cylinder was under the battery box and some clip might of come out so he asked me to remove the battery box so we could look. He had a reach inside and appears to of found the gear selector cables - and it doesn't seem like it's engaging any gear properly. Could this be the problem?

10th June 2011, 18:58	#26
Jakg This is my second home N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 6,867 Thanks: 0 Thanked 397 Times in 302 Posts	Perhaps I was a bit over-zealous there... Jacked it up, the wheel gets progressive easier to turn the higher gear I select. It also spins easier with the clutch in. This suggests that at the very least something is going on down there. My Dad's new helpful suggestion... "inertia flywheel" whatever that is.

10th June 2011, 21:19	#28
FrenchMike This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Avignon Posts: 4,466 Thanks: 94 Thanked 661 Times in 554 Posts	Incredible but possible : From Luk doc Plate.jpg Mike

13th June 2011, 14:04	#30
Jakg This is my second home N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 6,867 Thanks: 0 Thanked 397 Times in 302 Posts	Good news - garage picked my car up for further diagnosis. Bad news - in the process of picking it up, they managed to put a massive scratch on the bottom and front of the bumper, and seem to of cracked it a little as well. Not happy.