Metal thermostat housing KV6 - Page 7

Jules · 18th April 2009, 11:57

Brilliant work Kaiser!
And changeable thermostat also by the looks of things?
Have you worked out any retail prices yet?

Thanks very much for pioneering this project.

adam1978 · 18th April 2009, 15:15

I want one please let me know how much and how long??

majedm75 · 18th April 2009, 18:04

Me too, although I changed mine few weeks ago for an original part (that cost dear money

)

kaiser · 18th April 2009, 18:05

The cost of a set of aluminium items, assembled and ready to install will be EUR65 for anyone ordering a set from the batch to be made later this month, or early May (as things look at the moment).

If you just want the bits and fit another thermostat of your choice, I will charge EUR60, then you assemble yourself.
All parts are guaranteed for one year, against cracks or other breakage. The integrity of the installation process will remain your responsibility, so check the sealing when you install.
If, for any reason, you are not happy, you will get a refund or exchange, (not postage).

The advantages of this all metal set-up, compared to the standard system are:
1. No breakage as result of age and fatigue, reliability of metal not plastic.
2. The thermostat itself can be replaced using the housing again. No more
buying of plastic bits.
3. The thermostat can be chosen for specific temperatures.
4. The thermostat can be drilled, to maintain some flow, even if it fails in the closed position, making it possible to maintain some cooling even with a failed thermostat. It will also reduce thermal shock but slightly prolong warm up.
5. The system has been designed to give you full cooling (no re-circulation through engine) at a thermostat 70 percent open (as opposed to 100% from the factory). This will ensure that your system cools fully, much earlier than from the factory, increasing safety.
6. You can drill and tap for extra temperature probe in the housing, providing for improved temperature information directly from the "battle zone"
7. You can operate without thermostat, if required.

The postage will depend on a number of issues not fully known at the moment, but I will make sure that a set will cost no more than EUR 20 with surface mail to the UK. Delivery would be in the order of 4 weeks. Speedier delivery can be made, but will have to be arranged.

I will provide better prices for bulk orders.

I am sure there will be something I have forgotten, but please ask.

If you want to contact me directly use the e-mail address below. (Insert the appropriate symbol @ in the address below)

Jules · 19th April 2009, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiser

The cost of a set of aluminium items, assembled and ready to install will be EUR65 for anyone ordering a set from the batch to be made later this month, or early May (as things look at the moment).

5. The system has been designed to give you full cooling (no re-circulation through engine) at a thermostat 70 percent open (as opposed to 100% from the factory). This will ensure that your system cools fully, much earlier than from the factory, increasing safety.

If you want to contact me directly use the e-mail address below. (Insert the appropriate symbol @ in the address below)

roversATnetactive.co.za

Good work Kaiser .........where do we sign?:lol:
And a reasonable price I feel to when you consider the consequences of the plastic one failing altogehter!

Can you give us more info on para 5 above.
Do you mean you have altered (raised) the seating height where the "bottom stat disc" closes off the re circulation port?

If so, how will this alter the stability of the running temperature?
Presumably you have tested the new housing now for quite a few 1000's miles in your KV6 and by the sound of it, all is good?

Can you put me down for 2 please initially, but if the first batch becomes oversubscribed someone else can have my second housing?

Cheers & Xpart better stop producing the chocolate housing forthwith

Bernard LPG · 19th April 2009, 21:52

I've got a feeling that I'm going to have an investigation of my 'stat assembly very soon as there is evidence of a tiny leak on the connecting pipe. So please put me on the list as a matter of urgency.

kaiser · 20th April 2009, 03:01

Yes, the floor in the housing has been raised to stop re-circulation of hot water back into the engine when the thermostat opens 70% in stead of fully.
I have noticed on some thermostats there seems to be an interference obstruction with age, and they sometimes will not open fully. Also the recirculation back to the engine directs less flow through the radiator.
With these two issues, I designed my own hand built unit, so that the flow of heated coolant would fully go through the radiator, 30% earlier. This unit has worked fine, and I tend to get lower running temperatures in traffic, and a faster cooling when the fan starts. I have installed another temperature gauge, so I can see the the actual temperature.
If, for one or other reason you desire to maintain the original setting, you can machine 3mm off the bottom where the lower part of the thermostat seats.

kaiser · 20th April 2009, 10:42

Hi Jules please use roversATnetactive.co.za for placing yourself on the list for a unit (or two).

My e-mail box is annoyingly small on the forum.
(replace AT with @ in the address above)

Jules · 21st April 2009, 11:43

OK will do.

BTW
Your forum mail box will increase & your name will turn red if you hit the subscribe button

Only 3 euros

But suggest you make your name BOLD blue (more for commercial folk such as myself) It's still cheap advertising !

kaiser · 21st April 2009, 14:40

What do mean blue? I'm blue enough from just looking at the news.

Guess what? you pay my subs, I give you a discount. Deal?

18th April 2009, 11:57	#61
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18th April 2009, 15:15	#62
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18th April 2009, 18:05	#64
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	The cost of a set of aluminium items, assembled and ready to install will be EUR65 for anyone ordering a set from the batch to be made later this month, or early May (as things look at the moment). If you just want the bits and fit another thermostat of your choice, I will charge EUR60, then you assemble yourself. All parts are guaranteed for one year, against cracks or other breakage. The integrity of the installation process will remain your responsibility, so check the sealing when you install. If, for any reason, you are not happy, you will get a refund or exchange, (not postage). The advantages of this all metal set-up, compared to the standard system are: 1. No breakage as result of age and fatigue, reliability of metal not plastic. 2. The thermostat itself can be replaced using the housing again. No more buying of plastic bits. 3. The thermostat can be chosen for specific temperatures. 4. The thermostat can be drilled, to maintain some flow, even if it fails in the closed position, making it possible to maintain some cooling even with a failed thermostat. It will also reduce thermal shock but slightly prolong warm up. 5. The system has been designed to give you full cooling (no re-circulation through engine) at a thermostat 70 percent open (as opposed to 100% from the factory). This will ensure that your system cools fully, much earlier than from the factory, increasing safety. 6. You can drill and tap for extra temperature probe in the housing, providing for improved temperature information directly from the "battle zone" 7. You can operate without thermostat, if required. The postage will depend on a number of issues not fully known at the moment, but I will make sure that a set will cost no more than EUR 20 with surface mail to the UK. Delivery would be in the order of 4 weeks. Speedier delivery can be made, but will have to be arranged. I will provide better prices for bulk orders. I am sure there will be something I have forgotten, but please ask. If you want to contact me directly use the e-mail address below. (Insert the appropriate symbol @ in the address below) Last edited by GreyGhost; 27th September 2009 at 14:44..

21st April 2009, 11:43	#69
Jules This is my second home ZT 260 SE Twilight and 10 other 75 ZT's :O Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Conwy NORTH WALES Posts: 11,094 Thanks: 512 Thanked 1,116 Times in 763 Posts	OK will do. BTW Your forum mail box will increase & your name will turn red if you hit the subscribe button Only 3 euros But suggest you make your name BOLD blue (more for commercial folk such as myself) It's still cheap advertising ! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Newbies do now!! 1. Plenum drains..all 3 or 4 year dependent 2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning 3. Bonnet cable divider block

19th April 2009, 21:52	#66
Bernard LPG I really should get out more....... 75 V6 Saloon 2003 LPG MGZT V8 260 LPG Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evesham Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I've got a feeling that I'm going to have an investigation of my 'stat assembly very soon as there is evidence of a tiny leak on the connecting pipe. So please put me on the list as a matter of urgency.

20th April 2009, 03:01	#67
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	Yes, the floor in the housing has been raised to stop re-circulation of hot water back into the engine when the thermostat opens 70% in stead of fully. I have noticed on some thermostats there seems to be an interference obstruction with age, and they sometimes will not open fully. Also the recirculation back to the engine directs less flow through the radiator. With these two issues, I designed my own hand built unit, so that the flow of heated coolant would fully go through the radiator, 30% earlier. This unit has worked fine, and I tend to get lower running temperatures in traffic, and a faster cooling when the fan starts. I have installed another temperature gauge, so I can see the the actual temperature. If, for one or other reason you desire to maintain the original setting, you can machine 3mm off the bottom where the lower part of the thermostat seats.

20th April 2009, 10:42	#68
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	Hi Jules please use roversATnetactive.co.za for placing yourself on the list for a unit (or two). My e-mail box is annoyingly small on the forum. (replace AT with @ in the address above)

21st April 2009, 14:40	#70
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	What do mean blue? I'm blue enough from just looking at the news. Guess what? you pay my subs, I give you a discount. Deal?