Water in rear foot well of Tourer?????? Help please. - Page 2

jonathan63 · 23rd December 2015, 09:43

Just been out for a quick look. The drains at the bottoms of the doors are not blocked and are at the bottom of the door skin any way so any water would drain over the outside of the sill.

Under the rear seat squab is also dry and so is the spare wheel well.

The only places I haven't checked yet (because of the weather) is the plenum and the wells either side of the spare wheel well.

It is definitely not get in through the sun roof: it is completely taped over.

Arctic · 23rd December 2015, 10:24

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Originally Posted by jonathan63

Just been out for a quick look. The drains at the bottoms of the doors are not blocked and are at the bottom of the door skin any way so any water would drain over the outside of the sill.

Under the rear seat squab is also dry and so is the spare wheel well.

The only places I haven't checked yet (because of the weather) is the plenum and the wells either side of the spare wheel well.

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It is definitely not get in through the sun roof: it is completely taped over

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Jonathan it as most likely got in before you taped it up, and is so saturated it is now showing up, you really do need to lift the carpets, check the plenums, Arctic.

jonathan63 · 23rd December 2015, 14:42

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Originally Posted by Arctic

Jonathan it as most likely got in before you taped it up, and is so saturated it is now showing up, you really do need to lift the carpets, check the plenums, Arctic.

Thanks for that but it cannot be the case. I have mopped the rear carpet out 3 times now since taping up the sunroof. Unless the water has found a way of reproduction it is getting in somewhere else. I just don't know where.
The previous owner (from new) said he always had a problem with "the sun leaking" ever since it was nearly new. The dealer and, later his mechanic had countless goes at stopping the sunroof leaking, dropping the roof lining etc but nothing worked. Since I taped it up I'm certain that it was never the sunroof leaking. If it was they would have fixed it.

Arctic · 23rd December 2015, 15:12

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Originally Posted by jonathan63

Thanks for that but it cannot be the case. I have mopped the rear carpet out 3 times now since taping up the sunroof. Unless the water has found a way of reproduction it is getting in somewhere else. I just don't know where.

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The previous owner (from new) said he always had a problem with "the sun leaking" ever since it was nearly new. The dealer and, later his mechanic had countless goes at stopping the sunroof leaking, dropping the roof lining etc but nothing worked. Since I taped it up I'm certain that it was never the sunroof leaking. If it was they would have fixed it

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Jonathan.
If it was the sunroof it's self leaking I am sure the headlining would show marks to that effect.

If the original owner was having trouble and now you are it will be a build up of water soaked into the carpet so when you get in your feet will squeeze the water out, have you managed to lift the front or the rear of the carpet to check yet, if not please do as you may find this as I did.
http://youtu.be/qAZW71691Tk

http://youtu.be/OFEMDlejjiU

http://youtu.be/ktfz_e4eCV8

When do check it out and find the leak also do these jobs

Ducks bill in the wheel arch
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...118622&page=15

Scuttle sealing clips
http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...3&postcount=61

kaiser · 23rd December 2015, 16:13

You are assuming your seal is perfect. It might well be, but then again it might not.

As long as you are not willing to challenge your own assumptions, you have a major blind spot in solving the issue.

Why don't you just check all the points made here?, then there is nothing to argue about.

Combined it amounts to maybe 50 years of Rover ownership experience, or more.

That is something I would take seriously.

jonathan63 · 23rd December 2015, 17:12

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Originally Posted by kaiser

You are assuming your seal is perfect. It might well be, but then again it might not.

As long as you are not willing to challenge your own assumptions, you have a major blind spot in solving the issue.

Why don't you just check all the points made here?, then there is nothing to argue about.

Combined it amounts to maybe 50 years of Rover ownership experience, or more.

That is something I would take seriously.

First of all, I have challenged my own assumption. I have checked and double checked that the sunroof is securely taped up. I don't have a blind spot.
Second, apart from the plenum I have checked all the points made here. And no one is arguing.
Third, I do take 50 years of owner ship seriously. Add to that my own 30 something years.

I really appreciate everyone's suggestions but just take the word of someone with decades of practical experience: this water is NOT getting in through or around the sunroof or it's drain hole. And it isn't water that has slowly built up and is now showing its self when my feet press into the carpet. Every time it rains there is a puddle of water OVER the carpet in the rear foot well.

I just thought I'd ask if anyone had any suggestion other than the sunroof so that I could go straight to it when I finally get the car on the workshop.

Thanks guys. Have a great christmas.

kaiser · 23rd December 2015, 18:22

I must have missed you checking the sun roof drain connector behind the carpet, but glad you have done it.

I am waiting with great anticipation for the thing to be solved.

Enjoy your Christmas too.

Kennyeth · 25th December 2015, 08:37

Just a shot in the dark here as I am far from an expert:
If the plenum is dry or not flooded, is the rubber drain plug down there still in place??
I heard that when the rubber plug has been removed water can get between the floor double skin.
I hope you find your solution, it can be more than just frustrating and I know how you feel being unable to "fix" your issue.
Good luck Jonathan.
Ken.

23rd December 2015, 16:13	#15
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	You are assuming your seal is perfect. It might well be, but then again it might not. As long as you are not willing to challenge your own assumptions, you have a major blind spot in solving the issue. Why don't you just check all the points made here?, then there is nothing to argue about. Combined it amounts to maybe 50 years of Rover ownership experience, or more. That is something I would take seriously. __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

23rd December 2015, 18:22	#17
kaiser This is my second home 75 Tourer 2.5 Auto, 1.8T, 75V8ZT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg ZA Posts: 6,200 Thanks: 1 Thanked 859 Times in 613 Posts	I must have missed you checking the sun roof drain connector behind the carpet, but glad you have done it. I am waiting with great anticipation for the thing to be solved. Enjoy your Christmas too. __________________ Worth his V8 in gold

23rd December 2015, 09:43	#11
jonathan63 This is my second home CDTi Conniosseur SE HLNav Tourer and a Personal Line CDT Conniosseur SE Tourer..for the time being. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cumbria Posts: 3,639 Thanks: 340 Thanked 423 Times in 294 Posts	Just been out for a quick look. The drains at the bottoms of the doors are not blocked and are at the bottom of the door skin any way so any water would drain over the outside of the sill. Under the rear seat squab is also dry and so is the spare wheel well. The only places I haven't checked yet (because of the weather) is the plenum and the wells either side of the spare wheel well. It is definitely not get in through the sun roof: it is completely taped over.

25th December 2015, 08:37	#18
Kennyeth This is my second home No more Rover Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire. Posts: 5,881 Thanks: 1,625 Thanked 1,308 Times in 998 Posts	Just a shot in the dark here as I am far from an expert: If the plenum is dry or not flooded, is the rubber drain plug down there still in place?? I heard that when the rubber plug has been removed water can get between the floor double skin. I hope you find your solution, it can be more than just frustrating and I know how you feel being unable to "fix" your issue. Good luck Jonathan. Ken.