V6 Won't Start - Help - Page 10

carguy143 · 2nd June 2012, 00:02

That's not good.

Robson Rover Repair · 2nd June 2012, 00:22

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Originally Posted by Jakg

Ok, got bored, gave up and stripped the engine down...

One of the coil packs was COVERED in oil...

As was the spark-plug...

And how she stands now...

Anyidea of the source?

lovema75 · 2nd June 2012, 07:38

This is caused by failure of the cam cover gadget - I have just recently replaced one of mine which was pouring oil down onto the exhaust and smoking.

When I opened it up all 3 plug recesses were full of oil and looking at the gasket you could see where the seal had failed. As I also replaced the plugs and couldn't remove all the oil some of it drained into the cylinders - the smoke screen when it started would have shamed a naval destroyer...

I noticed the start of the same thing on the front bank so I suppose I will have to do that one at some point.

Jakg · 2nd June 2012, 12:27

On a related note, I know now much effort is required to remove the rear plugs - no wonder nobody ever does it!

Gonna get flamed for this, but the V6 seems like a truly terribly designed engine to work on (at least compared to my CDTi)

lovema75 · 2nd June 2012, 12:46

I think so too, but in reality most modern cars are just as bad if not worse.

There us no such thing as simple design any more.

chris75 · 2nd June 2012, 14:00

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Originally Posted by lovema75

I think so too, but in reality most modern cars are just as bad if not worse.

There us no such thing as simple design any more.

Very true ! Every so often I go to a classic car show and look at the Morris Minors with their bonnets open

Loads of space and not an electronic thing in sight

wutang · 2nd June 2012, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakg

On a related note, I know now much effort is required to remove the rear plugs - no wonder nobody ever does it!

Gonna get flamed for this, but the V6 seems like a truly terribly designed engine to work on (at least compared to my CDTi)

Na, rear plugs on mine are a ten minute job, once you realise that the easiest way is to ignore the stupid flap and just remove the plastic manifold. quick and easy.

Slingbox · 5th June 2012, 14:29

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Originally Posted by rover54

You say the garage think it is a fuel pump electrical supply problem. I would start by running a temp lead from battery to fuel pump to test if it works and if it then starts the car, you know where the problem lies. If it is not getting power them start by checking connections from ECU to fuel pump.

I'm embarrassed to ask this, but how is this done?

I think I might have a fuel pump supply problem... and my hazards won't switch off too which might be connected to this strange behaviour...

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Originally Posted by Jakg

Swapped the fuel pump relay for the HRW relay, no change

I tried checking the fuel pump fuse "F20" (although thats no help I'm sure!) and when I removed it the hazard lights came on?!

Might try finding the *thing I just forgot* switch just in case.

Any ideas people???

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lovema75 This is my second home 75 Tourer CDT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Enfield Posts: 3,925 Thanks: 63 Thanked 431 Times in 237 Posts	This is caused by failure of the cam cover gadget - I have just recently replaced one of mine which was pouring oil down onto the exhaust and smoking. When I opened it up all 3 plug recesses were full of oil and looking at the gasket you could see where the seal had failed. As I also replaced the plugs and couldn't remove all the oil some of it drained into the cylinders - the smoke screen when it started would have shamed a naval destroyer... I noticed the start of the same thing on the front bank so I suppose I will have to do that one at some point.

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Jakg This is my second home N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 6,867 Thanks: 0 Thanked 397 Times in 302 Posts	On a related note, I know now much effort is required to remove the rear plugs - no wonder nobody ever does it! Gonna get flamed for this, but the V6 seems like a truly terribly designed engine to work on (at least compared to my CDTi)

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lovema75 This is my second home 75 Tourer CDT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Enfield Posts: 3,925 Thanks: 63 Thanked 431 Times in 237 Posts	I think so too, but in reality most modern cars are just as bad if not worse. There us no such thing as simple design any more.