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Old 24th January 2017, 18:24   #21
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Hi Gatekeeper

I don't deal with Gliptone as they are not leather furniture specialists, so cannot comment on their products unfortunately. With ref to the conditioner, it really is a waste of money on our leather because it cannot be conditioned - it wont absorb into the leather as there is a lacquer layer on top of the leather.

Leather product manufacturers have a great time selling these though as 99.9% of the public cannot possibly understand why they shouldn't buy it. Some sell the benefit of having an additional 'protector' element added to it - but it soon wears off and is not needed on lacquered finishes.

If it's the smell your after then I ALWAYS only use an aroma spray and spray it onto my car mats (there is no need to spray it on to your seats!). It's the most genuine leather smell I have experienced (although leather doesn't actually smell, it's just the process it goes through that creates 'that' smell). Here it is: http://leathercareandrepair.co.uk/le...cent_spray.php He also sells it on the bay - but for more! It's awesome.

Hope this helps!

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Old 24th January 2017, 19:22   #22
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Kev I just wanted to post this to thank you for your time clearing things out here, I just ordered the pigment or dye or whatever lol haha and as soon as it arrives I will post before and after pics, I have also bough a walnut steering wheel with the leather worn out so that's why I needed this.
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Old 24th January 2017, 19:54   #23
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Some great knowledge being shared in this thread. Reading it with interest and on the lookout for the materials to repaint this, after i foolishly cleaned it with some leather cleaner

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Hey Nick

No worries mate, it wasn't taken in any sort of negative way at all so sorry if it seemed that way - it's just that I don't get much input from members when they ask and it gets a bit frustrating. Maybe that's the wrong word but you know what I mean. Maybe I mean lonely

With the split leather you can buy thin sheets of sticky patches that you cut to size. You peel the film off then place it underneath the split so that the sticky side is facing upwards towards the leather so that when you place the leather back down gently - it creates a permanent bond. Failing that then you can get normal sub patches that require leather glue to be put under the leather so that it sticks to the patch.

Then if need be it's a simple case of filling the crack with leather filler (its flexible), waiting until it dries then sand it down. Once done to your satisfaction then simply dab on some colour, then spray a bit of lacquer on and your good to go.

Hope that helps!

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Follow Kevs instructions and you won't go far wrong.
This very same way was told to me by another upholstery guy when I had a wear tear in the leather seats in my motorhome I used the leather patch and glue system filler and colour nobody could tell afterwards it had been repaired but patience is the watch word don't rush the job.
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Old 24th January 2017, 21:27   #25
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What was the leather cleaner David? If it contains any alcohol then that is quite aggressive for a cleaner. If it was a standard leather cleaner then it was the pure action of rubbing that would have removed that colour because of it being unstable. In any case its good to remove any failing colour - you don't have to go mad but removing loose colour actually makes it more stable for when you re-colour. So don't panic! You can use fine sandpaper to gently remove that excess too.

This is why there is lacquer on these to help prevent wear and issues relating to cleaning. But once that lacquer starts to wear away then the only thing usually holding the surface structure is grease and grime that gets buffed to a false shine. On our leather in the 75's the finish is a mat.

So in your case David:

1). Clean it again then wait for it to dry out.
2). Then sand gently to get a smooth finish.
3). Then use some alcohol (isopropyl) to wipe over it all.
4). Apply lacquer sealer to the worn areas
5). Recolour as advised earlier and use hair dryer.
6). Apply 2 coats of lacquer and use a hair dryer.

Enjoy your new looking long lasting repair





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Old 25th January 2017, 01:42   #26
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Thread moved to a more appropriate forum. Re-direct left in old. This may be the better forum as threads get ‘lost’ very quickly in the General Forum.
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Old 25th January 2017, 03:55   #27
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What was the leather cleaner David? If it contains any alcohol then that is quite aggressive for a cleaner. If it was a standard leather cleaner then it was the pure action of rubbing that would have removed that colour because of it being unstable. In any case its good to remove any failing colour - you don't have to go mad but removing loose colour actually makes it more stable for when you re-colour. So don't panic! You can use fine sandpaper to gently remove that excess too.

This is why there is lacquer on these to help prevent wear and issues relating to cleaning. But once that lacquer starts to wear away then the only thing usually holding the surface structure is grease and grime that gets buffed to a false shine. On our leather in the 75's the finish is a mat.

So in your case David:

1). Clean it again then wait for it to dry out.
2). Then sand gently to get a smooth finish.
3). Then use some alcohol (isopropyl) to wipe over it all.
4). Apply lacquer sealer to the worn areas
5). Recolour as advised earlier and use hair dryer.
6). Apply 2 coats of lacquer and use a hair dryer.

Enjoy your new looking long lasting repair
It was a foaming type of cleaner, and i suspect the wheel had perhaps been tocuched up by a previous owner because i have used it on my other car which i have owned from new with no problem, but on this car the colour just dissolved before my eyes. I assume no laquer was used. It was a Turtle wax brand cleaner, the one that comes in a spray can with a brush attached to the lid
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/car...-cleaner-400ml

So what is the correct name for my colour? Is it sandstone, smokestone, light smokestone or ash grey. There are several names used on ebay.

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Old 25th January 2017, 10:39   #28
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Hi David

The cleaner you used isn't one you should be using - it's for upholstery only so the chemical element would probably be wrong. Also the brush could have been too stiff. So those 2 things alone would have caused the issue on a leather that has lost its lacquer.

With the colour of yours, isn't there a website to check the colour issued at the factory for your car? If it wasn't from your car then you would need to find out what 75 it came from - maybe by using the reg to check?

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Old 28th January 2017, 11:12   #29
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Hi David

The cleaner you used isn't one you should be using - it's for upholstery only so the chemical element would probably be wrong. Also the brush could have been too stiff. So those 2 things alone would have caused the issue on a leather that has lost its lacquer.

With the colour of yours, isn't there a website to check the colour issued at the factory for your car? If it wasn't from your car then you would need to find out what 75 it came from - maybe by using the reg to check?

Thanks

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It came up as Ash/light smokestone

Now to find links for the cleaner, the paint and the laquer. Aah, I see it is all in post#8

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No problem David - good luck and if you need a micro roller/handle/tray (which goes on better than just dabbing/rolling with a sponge in your fingers), then post #8 has the details. But if it's just a small piece that needs colouring then don't bother mate.

Kev

p.s. here is another supplier for the lacquer (sealant): https://www.furnitureclinic.co.uk/Le...nt_Aerosol.php it might be worth trying this one as the other one I mentioned is a matt but it has an ever so slight sheen to it - this one may not?

EDIT: I have put all the details to buy from on post #8 now, all in one place.
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