Electric cars

[roverbarmy]

EV's are OK so long as you drive them and not the other way around!

https://www.kiaownersclub.co.uk/thre...ra-care.66852/

[genpk]

Originally Posted by Bazzateer

If I'd meant you, I would have quoted you.
Like you, I was just passing comment on how I see some of the doom mongers on here.

Dont think it is doom mongering asking the questions as to how this brave new zero emissions world is actually going to function and affect everyone.
It is fine having all these “deep green” philosophies which would be great if they actually had real workable solutions attached to their ideals instead “it will all work out some how”
I have still yet to here a realistic solution to storing a base load power supply
from solar or wind during peak load times (6pm-8pm) when there is no sun
and no wind. A battery storage facility would take up a massive amount of space
and would not be financially viable.
There will have to be gas or coal fired power to some degree or another for some time yet otherwise lights will go out!
So in reality the “deep greens” are big on ideas but short on reality.
Unfortunately they have to contend with the reality of the laws of physics- or do they ? All sounds warm and fuzzy until you actually examine the reality!!

[guru]

Originally Posted by genpk

Dont think it is doom mongering asking the questions as to how this brave new zero emissions world is actually going to function and affect everyone.
It is fine having all these “deep green” philosophies which would be great if they actually had real workable solutions attached to their ideals instead “it will all work out some how”
I have still yet to here a realistic solution to storing a base load power supply
from solar or wind during peak load times (6pm-8pm) when there is no sun
and no wind. A battery storage facility would take up a massive amount of space
and would not be financially viable.
There will have to be gas or coal fired power to some degree or another for some time yet otherwise lights will go out!
So in reality the “deep greens” are big on ideas but short on reality.
Unfortunately they have to contend with the reality of the laws of physics- or do they ? All sounds warm and fuzzy until you actually examine the reality!!

None of what you said makes any sense or is based on fact. Battery storage does not take up a massive amounts of space and has been proven to be financially viable plus if the government actually did things properly for once they could mandate vehicle to grid on new cars and chargers which means the national grid would gain a massive storage capacity for very little outlay.

I'm not a 'green' by any stretch of the imagination however I think that anything that reduces out dependence on foreign oil and gas can only be a good thing. Energy independence would give our economy a serious boost.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by genpk

See you guys over there are having a 30c day and wveryone reckons its hot!!
Im on the west coast in australia, Perth.
Our summer here we regularly get a couple of weeks in February at 45-48c every year and still keep going- you get used to it after a while.
Keep in the shade and drink lots of water!!
......

Does this not suggest that unless we take climate impacts of our ways seriously, most living things in places like Australia will die. There will be little water to drink due to the temperature increases. This may be a useful read. https://theconversation.com/seriousl...century-157875

Perhaps this is ultmimately how the planet will be saved - a massive reduction in consumption due to very little life remaining leading to a massive reduction in pollution.

Perhaps the 'deep greens' can see our ultimate destiny and are scared of what lies ahead?

[Mike Noc]

I wonder if all these wind turbines will affect the climate at all? We are taking more and more energy out of the wind - hope it doesn't lead to future climate changes we don't want.

[Bazzateer]

Private Fraser was right.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

I wonder if all these wind turbines will affect the climate at all? We are taking more and more energy out of the wind - hope it doesn't lead to future climate changes we don't want.

Arguably all we humans are trying to achieve at the moment is finding alternative energy sources to maintain our lifestyles and behaviours. There is a possibility that this is no more than a case of rearranging the deck chairs and what is really needed is a fundamental rethink of our use of scarce resources and our lifestyles.

Originally Posted by Bazzateer

Private Fraser was right.

I'm sure many Dodos were comfortable and laughing until the end!

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by roverbarmy

EV's are OK so long as you drive them and not the other way around!

https://www.kiaownersclub.co.uk/thre...ra-care.66852/

I wonder if the "rubbish" Fiesta got there safely?
1-0 perhaps to the Fiesta

macafee2

[MSS]

Originally Posted by roverbarmy

EV's are OK so long as you drive them and not the other way around!

https://www.kiaownersclub.co.uk/thre...ra-care.66852/

These driver assistance packs are not limited to EVs these days. They are also on many ICE cars.

Perhaps some modern cars have inbuilt failure features leading to accidents just like human drivers!

[Bogbrush82]

Originally Posted by MSS

These driver assistance packs are not limited to EVs these days. They are also on many ICE cars.

It's called the wife isn't it?