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Old 17th April 2022, 21:06   #211
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Well I have one. HMG wants to spend £120 million on flying distressed refugees to a distant country with an unpleasant human rights record. Why not spend that money on seriously identifying the people trafficers?

Easier said than done as the trafficers are not in the UK unless we are going to give £120 million to France etc to do the investigation.
We only going to spend £120million if they continue to come across the channel.
Currently we spend £5million a day - £1825 million a year - putting them up in hotels etc.
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Old 17th April 2022, 21:31   #212
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Whichever one's position on this it's almost impossible to solve.

Putting them up in luxury palaces maybe additional encouragement. Sending them to a 3rd country is most likely going to be challenged in court.

Glad I'm not in charge trying to sort it. Perhaps rather than blame those trying to get to a better place the politicians could try and work it out, rather than play politics over it all. But that's what politicians do.
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I cannot see this initiative lasting long. They’ll be able to use it whilst canvassing in May then legal challenges will probably make it unworkable. I suppose everyone questioning it, will then be blamed for its failure. A proper humane processing system needs to be thought through, unfortunately we are not on the best of terms with our near neighbours which makes it almost impossible to do.
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See the migrants are coming again in numbers. We'll see if they get sent to Rwanda for processing.
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See the migrants are coming again in numbers. We'll see if they get sent to Rwanda for processing.
I had to go into Great Yarmouth on Thursday and most of them seem to have arrived there. Lots of single men in track suits or camo gear, with backpacks or wheely cases and a faint odour of campfire. I didn't notice many tourists and one elderly couple I spoke to, said that they were there for a day visit and would not be coming back!
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I've discovered the answer to my question (post 209). There is a problem within the hierarchies of the EU that refuses to aid or assist UK in anything UK asks for or wants to do.

Because of this there are no member states between the migrants’ point of EU entry and the English Chanel that would be willing to go against central policy by returning them to their original point of entry into that particular state. Not one.

So, from Portugal to Greece and north through Sicily to Germany and France, not one of the transit countries will lift a finger, let alone decline entry through their country. How shabby. Maybe if we dropped the ‘English’ bit....oh, no, wait a minute...I wonder what they have as policy for the N.I. border?
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Just to clarify. I have no problems with migrants or immigrants so long as they are legal and arrive through proper channels, with the correct paperwork. Otherwise, we do not know their true intentions. My own family migrated from Ireland after the potato crop failure/famine, and came to work (slave) in Lord Londonderry's mines in the North East. They had to pay "the gaffer" for their tools, equipment and housing, so winner all round, wasn't he!
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So, from Portugal to Greece and north through Sicily to Germany and France, not one of the transit countries will lift a finger, let alone decline entry through their country. How shabby.

Why should they? "Brexit means Brexit": presumably you voted for that? Many of these countries have taken hundreds of thousands, if not millions of refugees already.
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Our respective politicians, both here and on the continent, are quite shameful over this issue. They are all quite happy to offload their responsibilities to look after these people and blame the next one down the migratory route. Who inevitably blame the ones further up.

Meanwhile, as always, folks are suffering because others play their silly little games. I wouldn't trust a politician to sort out a bag full of apples and pears, never mind the problems the world is facing at present. Most of which they cause.
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Amen to that.

As for the Brexit thing, ho hum, it's a diversion from the fact of internal laws of the EU and nothing to blame UK about. We are not responsible for every member nation ignoring internal rules while we actually, in exceeding our responsibility, give safe harbour, for now at least, to the suffering masses who seek refuge from oppression. Although why some of them decide to throw their passports away beats me.
I recommend a long hard read of EU law to get then full s.p. on this matter!
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